La Troienne discussion

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Not well said at all.

Unless you mean he was grammatically correct.

If you don't understand how taking away the speed from a high quality and brilliantly fast horse is a poor tactic, than there really is no way for it to be explained to you.

Go and watch a few thousand more races, and watch what happens to horses like, say, Bertrando, when the jock doesn't let them roll.

And just because he wasn't fighting her doesn't mean he was not compromising her chances of winning.

So he was supposed to hustle her up? He let her do her thing.

This isn't some 50k claimer and prior to the last two races, Rachel was certainly held in higher regard than Bertrando (certainly no knock on that horse). This is Rachel Alexandra...reigning HOY...the next coming of Ruffian. She got eyeballed in the lane. Pure and simple. And you are blaming the jock for not rushing her through faster fractions on a track that was playing against speed all day?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

So he was supposed to hustle her up? He let her do her thing.

This isn't some 50k claimer and prior to the last two races, Rachel was certainly held in higher regard than Bertrando (certainly no knock on that horse). This is Rachel Alexandra...reigning HOY...the next coming of Ruffian. She got eyeballed in the lane. Pure and simple. And you are blaming the jock for not rushing her through faster fractions on a track that was playing against speed all day?

I don't know why English is such a hard language for people.

This is a filly that when setting very fast fractions, ran her opposition off of their feet. Any horse within a short distance of her on the turn usually ended up at the back of the pack, while at the same time, most closers really couldn't make up much ground on her.

What I'm trying to say is that that running style is what suits her best. She may or may not be at the same quality level she was last year, but until she's allowed to run the type of race that made her so great last year, we'll never really know why she's lost twice this year already.

And I never said to 'hustle' her. Or, as you say, just let her do her thing. Something that you are very wrong about. If you saw any of her races last year, it should be really obvious that her thing is to go fast early and keep going. Do you think 48.4 is a good example of that?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I don't know why English is such a hard language for people.

This is a filly that when setting very fast fractions, ran her opposition off of their feet. Any horse within a short distance of her on the turn usually ended up at the back of the pack, while at the same time, most closers really couldn't make up much ground on her.

What I'm trying to say is that that running style is what suits her best. She may or may not be at the same quality level she was last year, but until she's allowed to run the type of race that made her so great last year, we'll never really know why she's lost twice this year already.

And I never said to 'hustle' her. Just let her do her thing.

You may have a point. I'm anxious to see them use those tactics next out. Cheers.

[Left Bank]

I strongly feel we will see a different rider next time.I think Calvin did nothing wrong,I just think Dickhead(Jackson) will switch,since he thinks he knows everything.

Originally Posted by Left Bank

I strongly feel we will see a different rider next time.I think Calvin did nothing wrong,I just think Dickhead(Jackson) will switch,since he thinks he knows everything.

That would be a public relations nightmare and the bonehead move of the year. Calvin put on an absolute clinic today and now the media is focused on him.

It's not like the main track was a conveyor belt the past two days.

[Merlinsky]

Would it be accurate to call Jess the Jerry Jones of horse racing? Or is one worse than the other? If that settling idea is Jess', I'm betting it has to do with thinking that'll be necessary against Zenyatta at 1 1/4. If you go and confuse or sour your filly, she's got bigger problems than conserving energy for that particular stretch battle. I really don't know that I'd put all my money on outkicking Zenyatta in a gut check down the lane. If she's gotten that close to you, you're screwed already. She's 17 hands with a massive stride, and that momentum's a killer. There's no point in doing an eyeball to eyeball duel.