Early Early derby odds

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Wait until there is about 500k in the pool....But Borel money is a real phenomenon as well as Paddo O Prado officially being the wise guy horse.

Coldwater bandwagon

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

Coldwater bandwagon

I respect the opinions of the people there alot with regards to how well he's training. I believe it. I would not have used Dennis of Cork a few years ago without those opinions....but I don't think the risk/reward is anything near what it should be on this horse.

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I respect the opinions of the people there alot with regards to how well he's training. I believe it. I would not have used Dennis of Cork a few years ago without those opinions....but I don't think the risk/reward is anything near what it should be on this horse.

Me too.

[philcski]

Current odds based on Oaks/Derby double... which I believe to be a very good indicator.
1 Lookin at Lucky (Gomez) 3.1-1
2 Ice Box (Lezcano) 15-1
3 Noble's Promise (W. Martinez) 23-1
4 Super Saver (Borel) 15-1
5 Line of David (Bejarano) 37-1
6 Stately Victor (A. Garcia) 20-1
7 American Lion (Flores) 33-1
8 Dean's Kitten (Albarado) 54-1
9 Make Music for Me (Rosario) 59-1
10 Paddy O'Prado (Desormeaux) 30-1
11 Devil May Care (J. Velazquez) 18-1
12 Conveyance (M. Garcia) 29-1
13 Jackson Bend (M. Smith) 29-1
14 Mission Impazible (Maragh) 25-1
15 Discreetly Mine (Castellano) 58-1
16 Awesome Act (Leparoux) 11-1
17 Dublin (Thompson) 31-1
18 Backtalk (Mena) 56-1
19 Homeboykris (Dominguez) 73-1
20 Sidney's Candy (Talamo) 8-1

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by philcski

Current odds based on Oaks/Derby double... which I believe to be a very good indicator.
1 Lookin at Lucky (Gomez) 3.1-1
2 Ice Box (Lezcano) 15-1
3 Noble's Promise (W. Martinez) 23-1
4 Super Saver (Borel) 15-1
5 Line of David (Bejarano) 37-1
6 Stately Victor (A. Garcia) 20-1
7 American Lion (Flores) 33-1
8 Dean's Kitten (Albarado) 54-1
9 Make Music for Me (Rosario) 59-1
10 Paddy O'Prado (Desormeaux) 30-1
11 Devil May Care (J. Velazquez) 18-1
12 Conveyance (M. Garcia) 29-1
13 Jackson Bend (M. Smith) 29-1
14 Mission Impazible (Maragh) 25-1
15 Discreetly Mine (Castellano) 58-1
16 Awesome Act (Leparoux) 11-1
17 Dublin (Thompson) 31-1
18 Backtalk (Mena) 56-1
19 Homeboykris (Dominguez) 73-1
20 Sidney's Candy (Talamo) 8-1

Where is that? I couldn't find it on the KD site.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

Where is that? I couldn't find it on the KD site.

twinspires.com has the Oaks/Derby probables... I used Blind Luck's double prices as the start and recalculated to determine the odds.

For what it's worth, she's 9/5 in the double pool.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by philcski

twinspires.com has the Oaks/Derby probables... I used Blind Luck's double prices as the start and recalculated to determine the odds.

For what it's worth, she's 9/5 in the double pool.

Surprised she's that high.

[ranger5830]

It's so amazing, I just had to note it, as of right now, Super Saver is the Derby favorite.

[alysheba4]

noble,s promise @ 23-1 is fantastic......i am getting down a 1,2,3,4,20 ex. bx & tri bx. n.p is ready to fire HUGE.....

[philcski]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Surprised she's that high.

I'm not... Jerry Brown recommended a bet against. She'll probably drift down but 6/5 was probably too low a morning line.

[pmacdaddy]

Originally Posted by philcski

twinspires.com has the Oaks/Derby probables... I used Blind Luck's double prices as the start and recalculated to determine the odds.

For what it's worth, she's 9/5 in the double pool.

Have you seen willpays?

Thanks

[jwkniska]

Below are the Will Pays for the $2 Oaks-Derby Double Wager
1 - Lookin at Lucky $22.40
2 - Ice Box $59.60
3 - Noble's Promise $96.60
4 - Super Saver $56.60
5 - Line of David $151.80
6 - Stately Victor $87.20
7 - American Lion $137.80
8 - Dean's Kitten $235.40
9 - Make Music for Me $278.00
10 - Paddy O'Prado $106.20
11 - Devil May Care $67.80
12 - Conveyance $118.80
13 - Jackson Bend $122.80
14 - Mission Impazible $102.60
15 - Discreetly Mine $241.00
16 - Awesome Act $39.20
17 - Dublin $108.20
18 - Backtalk $250.20
19 - Homeboykris $309.20
20 - Sidney's Candy $46.40

[Antitrust32]

very stupid question but my brain is farting.

You can do $1 exacta boxes at Churchill, correct?

[rpncaine]

Correct

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by rpncaine

Correct

thanks!

[NoLuvForPletch]

a) what does 2 inches of rain do to this place besides make it real wet?

b) knowing what is coming (above), and knowing that all people are talking about in regards to how much speed there will be on the front end, how is ice box not taking more money? i don't like him at 6-1, but have to play him at double digits, especially after his work in the water the other day...