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Old 04-15-2010, 11:02 PM
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Obama Orders Hospital Visitation Rights For Gay, Lesbian Couples
First Posted: 04-15-10 08:55 PM | Updated: 04-15-10 10:12 PM

WASHINGTON (AP)- President Barack Obama is issuing a directive he says will make it easier for hospital patients, particularly gays and lesbians, to receive visitors and choose who will make medical decisions on their behalf.

Obama is asking the Health and Human Services secretary to begin the process of putting in place federal rules to ensure that hospitals respect the rights of patients to designate visitors. The order covers hospitals receiving Medicare or Medicaid.

Under Obama's directive, those designated, including people with powers of attorney and health care proxies, are to have visitation privileges equal to immediate family members.

Obama says gays and lesbians and other Americans have been barred from the bedsides of their partners or loved ones.
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Old 04-15-2010, 11:34 PM
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Obama Orders Hospital Visitation Rights For Gay, Lesbian Couples
First Posted: 04-15-10 08:55 PM | Updated: 04-15-10 10:12 PM

WASHINGTON (AP)- President Barack Obama is issuing a directive he says will make it easier for hospital patients, particularly gays and lesbians, to receive visitors and choose who will make medical decisions on their behalf.

Obama is asking the Health and Human Services secretary to begin the process of putting in place federal rules to ensure that hospitals respect the rights of patients to designate visitors. The order covers hospitals receiving Medicare or Medicaid.

Under Obama's directive, those designated, including people with powers of attorney and health care proxies, are to have visitation privileges equal to immediate family members.

Obama says gays and lesbians and other Americans have been barred from the bedsides of their partners or loved ones.
Thats really nice , so this means the feds are going to recognize domestic partnerships? Its pretty simple to get into see someone in the hospital , I have been there many times and somehow all my friends have managed to get into see me. So does this mean that if my gf gets in car accident in a state that doesnt recognize domestic partnerships I will get into to see her even though I dont have power of attorney or a health care proxy? So if she is in a coma how does she make a list of people who are allowed to see her ?
Freaking smoke and mirrors is what it is. He is reaching out to all the homo's that voted him in me not being one of them with something that is pure b.s.
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Thats really nice , so this means the feds are going to recognize domestic partnerships? Its pretty simple to get into see someone in the hospital , I have been there many times and somehow all my friends have managed to get into see me. So does this mean that if my gf gets in car accident in a state that doesnt recognize domestic partnerships I will get into to see her even though I dont have power of attorney or a health care proxy? So if she is in a coma how does she make a list of people who are allowed to see her ?
Freaking smoke and mirrors is what it is. He is reaching out to all the homo's that voted him in me not being one of them with something that is pure b.s.
Didn't they have trouble in Florida with Lesbians not getting visitation ? I mean if you're experience in the hospital was in SOCAL (or Hawaii,) I wouldn't assume other parts of the country are the same in this regards.
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Old 04-17-2010, 01:54 PM
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Didn't they have trouble in Florida with Lesbians not getting visitation ? I mean if you're experience in the hospital was in SOCAL (or Hawaii,) I wouldn't assume other parts of the country are the same in this regards.
Uhm , Pa. , W.V. , Co. , N.M. Oh. and So Cal.
The directive doesnt say every homo's signifigant other it says people with power of atty. and people with health proxies for people being treated using Medicare or Medicade which are federal programs that is why Im asking if the Fed's are now recognizing domestic partnerships. It doesnt matter if its a Democrat or a Republican in office , there will never be a president with the balls to give homo's equal marital rights.
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Old 04-17-2010, 05:17 PM
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It doesnt matter if its a Democrat or a Republican in office , there will never be a president with the balls to give homo's equal marital rights.
Congress and the Senate would make those laws, not the President. Thus this Presidential directive is a good thing, to start getting something done outside of changes laws

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The directive doesnt say every homo's signifigant other it says people with power of atty. and people with health proxies
No, it's not limited to only those, it says including those; in addition to "those designated" are to have visiting privileges equal to family." - which most certainly could include anybody's significant other

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No, that's wrong, re-read it: the Presidential directive will apply to any hospital that receives Medicare-Medicaid funds.
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I re read it and you are right.
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Obama Orders Hospital Visitation Rights For Gay, Lesbian Couples
First Posted: 04-15-10 08:55 PM | Updated: 04-15-10 10:12 PM

WASHINGTON (AP)- President Barack Obama is issuing a directive he says will make it easier for hospital patients, particularly gays and lesbians, to receive visitors and choose who will make medical decisions on their behalf.

Obama is asking the Health and Human Services secretary to begin the process of putting in place federal rules to ensure that hospitals respect the rights of patients to designate visitors. The order covers hospitals receiving Medicare or Medicaid.

Under Obama's directive, those designated, including people with powers of attorney and health care proxies, are to have visitation privileges equal to immediate family members.

Obama says gays and lesbians and other Americans have been barred from the bedsides of their partners or loved ones.
Are you usually asked if you are gay or straight when you go visit someone in the hospital????
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Are you usually asked if you are gay or straight when you go visit someone in the hospital????
in particularly dire situations, you're asked if you're family.
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Old 04-16-2010, 09:21 PM
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it's not directly on point but lyndon johnson used a similar executive order to force desegregation on hospitals in the 60's.
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Are you usually asked if you are gay or straight when you go visit someone in the hospital????
No, but under increased patient privacy laws, it has become more and more difficult for non-blood relations, non-spouse to be at a seriously ill person's bedside.

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Under Obama's directive, those designated, including people with powers of attorney and health care proxies, are to have visitation privileges equal to immediate family members.
The above is seriously good stuff. A person's same-sex partner may have the health care proxie, but not be allowed to be at bedside because they are not "immediate family" (if the patient isn't conscious, etc)
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My question still is do the feds recognize domestic partnerships now?
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My question still is do the feds recognize domestic partnerships now?
no. we should elect more republican's until this is done.
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