Glenn Beck

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Now, what to cut? Personally, I'm all for cutting Medicare. These old blue-hairs can just pay for private insurance like the rest of us do and then I don't have to pay Medicare out of my paycheck just so they can get treated for their lifetime of smoking and not exercising and eating cheap fried crap at the Early Bird Special. It's not my problem; I'm not old. It's not my fault they didn't bother to save money for their inevitable health care costs at the end of their life- they should have been more fiscally responsible. I don't see the Medicare recipients here showing any concern for my health care; why should I have to pay for theirs?

I'm sure a private company will be delighted to give them comprehensive insurance at a reasonable rate. And if they won't? Well, not my problem. They can just go ask for help from their local church. I'm sure private charity can take care of them.

That's it; that's the solution to a large part of the budget. End Medicare. See? Easy.

Stop borrowing money and cut the defense budget in half.

Then send you off in a straight-jacket.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Stop borrowing money and cut the defense budget in half.

Cut the defense budget? What are we going to do - use spit balls in the next confrontation?!~ It's the one expense that the Constitution gives the federal goverment.

How about doing away with entitlement program that no one has ever paid into and cleaning up fraud and waste in the current government health care system. Do away with tort law and giveouts to illegal alliens.

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Cut the defense budget? What are we going to do - use spit balls in the next confrontation?!~ It's the one expense that the Constitution gives the federal goverment.

How about doing away with entitlement program that no one has ever paid into and cleaning up fraud and waste in the current government health care system. Do away with tort law and giveouts to illegal alliens.

Do you know how many nukes we have?

Hell...the military is going to the private sector now. There is no need to keep fighting wars for oil... let the oil companies pay for the troops.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Do you know how many nukes we have?

Fight with nukes? I don't think anyone wins using nukes. And, if we've been fighting for oil since 1991, how come we haven't gotten any so far?!~

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Fight with nukes? I don't think anyone wins using nukes. And, if we've been fighting for oil since 1991, how come we haven't gotten any so far?!~

Exactly. So who is getting the oil. THUS. MY. POINT.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Exactly. So who is getting the oil. THUS. MY. POINT.

I laughed, because reading comprehension is lacking in this thread, apparently.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Exactly. So who is getting the oil. THUS. MY. POINT.

And, if the reason we went to war was for oil, we'd have some. That's my point.

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

And, if the reason we went to war was for oil, we'd have some. That's my point.

It's the reason. Who do you think has Washington's ear? The oil lobby or average citizens?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Cut the defense budget? What are we going to do - use spit balls in the next confrontation?!~ It's the one expense that the Constitution gives the federal goverment.

How about doing away with entitlement program that no one has ever paid into and cleaning up fraud and waste in the current government health care system. Do away with tort law and giveouts to illegal alliens.

actually, we could cut defense spending in half and still spend far, far more on our military than any other nation. i doubt we'd be reduced to spit balls.

hell, my personal arsenal is probably more powerful than a lot of 'armies'.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Danzig

actually, we could cut defense spending in half and still spend far, far more on our military than any other nation. i doubt we'd be reduced to spit balls.

hell, my personal arsenal is probably more powerful than a lot of 'armies'.

Perhaps you're too young to remember Reagan's build up of the military. Russia blinked. I'm an unapologetic Reagan conservative. Big military, small government, and a Flat Tax (edit: I mean Fair Tax. not Flat Tax) program.

There is corruption, graft, waste, and fraud in defense spending, but even if that was cleaned up, there would be no way that defense spending could be cut in half.

And, if your personal arsenal is that strong, Uncle Sam needs you.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Perhaps you're too young to remember Reagan's build up of the military. Russia blinked. I'm an unapologetic Reagan conservative. Big military, small government, and a Flat Tax program. Yes, philski, I know it was voted down 5 years ago, but the plan has been improved greatly since then.

There is corruption, graft, waste, and fraud in defense spending, but even if that was cleaned up, there would be no way that defense spending could be cut in half.

And, if your personal arsenal is that strong, Uncle Sam needs you.

But who are we trying to make blink? Counterterrorism efforts do not require big military, I think the fact that 9 years after 9/11 and over 8 years into our efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan have proven that. We are no safer than we were on Sept 10th, 2001.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by philcski

But who are we trying to make blink? Counterterrorism efforts do not require big military, I think the fact that 9 years after 9/11 and over 8 years into our efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan have proven that. We are no safer than we were on Sept 10th, 2001.

exactly. things have changed-everyone knows they can't stand toe to toe with us in a conventional war....but here we are, eight-nine years after we went to afganistan, and there we still are. reminds me of when england spent centuries trying to take over wales. a huge military power, but couldn't cow their much smaller neighbor who resorted to guerrilla tactics. it took eight castles and edward the first to finally do the deed...but i digress. lessons to be learned from that, as well as from the ussr making the attempt back in the day..

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Danzig

exactly. things have changed-everyone knows they can't stand toe to toe with us in a conventional war....but here we are, eight-nine years after we went to afganistan, and there we still are. reminds me of when england spent centuries trying to take over wales. a huge military power, but couldn't cow their much smaller neighbor who resorted to guerrilla tactics. it took eight castles and edward the first to finally do the deed...but i digress. lessons to be learned from that, as well as from the ussr making the attempt back in the day..

And the mighty Russia had to abandon Afganistan in defeat. The French has to leave Indo-China in defeat. America had to leave Viet Nam in defeat. But, we didn't have to leave Iraq in defeat. We did manage to get that genocide maniac hanged by the rafters and took out his maniac sons and virtually all of his henchmen. Good show, USA!

Afganistan is Obama's war. Take it up with him if you think he'll listen. That was one of the issue on his platform. Now he's stuck with it.

Get the heck out of that rock heap. Keep drones flying over and take out poppy fields when they're found. The country is a lost cause. Fred and Wilma Flintstone would turn their nose up at living there.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Perhaps you're too young to remember Reagan's build up of the military. Russia blinked. I'm an unapologetic Reagan conservative. Big military, small government, and a Flat Tax program. Yes, philski, I know it was voted down 5 years ago, but the plan has been improved greatly since then.

There is corruption, graft, waste, and fraud in defense spending, but even if that was cleaned up, there would be no way that defense spending could be cut in half.

And, if your personal arsenal is that strong, Uncle Sam needs you.

lol
i served in then navy when reagan was commander in chief. as for military spending, you need to look up how many billions more we spend than the next closest guy. considering our allies, such as where we stand with nato, etc, there's no need to spend quite as much as what we do. i'm a military fan, my husband, oldest son, and myself are vets. my youngest son leaves for bootcamp in january. however, we spend astronomical amounts compared to our enemies-and we could certainly scale back. am i saying not have the largest, or most advanced? not at all. we could still have that, maybe just not ten times over.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Danzig

lol
i served in then navy when reagan was commander in chief. as for military spending, you need to look up how many billions more we spend than the next closest guy. considering our allies, such as where we stand with nato, etc, there's no need to spend quite as much as what we do. i'm a military fan, my husband, oldest son, and myself are vets. my youngest son leaves for bootcamp in january. however, we spend astronomical amounts compared to our enemies-and we could certainly scale back. am i saying not have the largest, or most advanced? not at all. we could still have that, maybe just not ten times over.

Perhaps if the USA resorted to terrorism, we wouldn't have to spend somuch money.

Kidding aside, every two bit nation in the world is looking to unseat the top dog - us. That's why we have to have the biggest and the mightiest. I do, however, think you missed what I said about cleaning up waste, graft, corruption, and overspending. But, even if we did that - we couldn't cut the budget in half - not with the escalation of prices and the cost of new technology needed to keep up and current.

My father (Navy) died at Pearl Habor. My husband's father (Marine) died at Iwo Jima. My brother (Army) died in Nam. My husband served two tours of duty as a US Marine in Nam as a tank commander and was seriously wounded. Not bragging - just letting you know where my family and loved ones came from and went to.

Thank you, your husband, and your sons for your military service. There is nothing more honorable than serving one's country.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Perhaps if the USA resorted to terrorism, we wouldn't have to spend somuch money.

Kidding aside, every two bit nation in the world is looking to unseat the top dog - us. That's why we have to have the biggest and the mightiest. I do, however, think you missed what I said about cleaning up waste, graft, corruption, and overspending. But, even if we did that - we couldn't cut the budget in half - not with the escalation of prices and the cost of new technology needed to keep up and current.

My father (Navy) died at Pearl Habor. My husband's father (Marine) died at Iwo Jima. My brother (Army) died in Nam. My husband served two tours of duty as a US Marine in Nam as a tank commander and was seriously wounded. Not bragging - just letting you know where my family and loved ones came from and went to.

Thank you, your husband, and your sons for your military service. There is nothing more honorable than serving one's country.

I commend your family for the years they have given in protecting this great country of ours.