Glenn Beck

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Danzig

obama ran on a lot of platforms, one of which was health reform. i can't remember ever agreeing with a pol on all his ideas, and i doubt you'd find that everyone who voted for obama did so because of health reform. the fact he won doesn't give him carte blanche to do whatever the hell he wants, while using 'i won' as an excuse, does it? those we send to d.c. are there because we can't all go vote on everything-it doesn't mean they can go up there and do whatever they wish. but then, if they do, they get booted out-hopefully. but i know many times you've said he ran on that, therefore we got what we asked for. i find that to be untrue. many may have voted for him due to other issues, and hoped like hell that health care would get left alone-or at least that he wouldn't continue the spending ways.

taxes soon to go up, there was yet another article yesterday with dire warnings about our economy and the massive, and growing debt. either things get cut, or taxes go up-or a combo of the two.

Are you expecting more from O'Dumbass. Sorry but you will get disappointed. His agenda is I instead of we. He could care less about what the American public feels about an issue. Im still waiting for him to do something for the economy and not raise taxes so his healthcare bill will be paid for.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Are you expecting more from O'Dumbass. Sorry but you will get disappointed. His agenda is I instead of we. He could care less about what the American public feels about an issue. Im still waiting for him to do something for the economy and not raise taxes so his healthcare bill will be paid for.

i don't expect any more, or any less, from him than any other politician up there. i think for most in office, it's I rather than we.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

And all your claims are substantiated? If the truth hurts you tough ****.

YES, in fact they are. I've posted (fully unbiased) links that support my claims, and others that refute YOUR incorrect claims, but you didn't have the decency to even read them!

Originally Posted by philcski

ll of his claims are factually incorrect and once cornered on his lack of research/knowledge turns on the angry, "you don't respect me or the military" personality. All I ask is if you're going to debate me on something, get your facts straight.

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

If a person disagrees with your view everytime you think it is unsubstantiated. I should know what I got for raises while in the military. You probably never served a day in the military. Which is okay with me. I dont care for people who bring dishonor to the military. You need to get over the fact that I wont suck up to O'Dumbass like you do. BTW I dont have to please you. I guess everyone has thier facts wrong in your book.

Thanks for doing exactly what I said you do not 6 hours after I posted it. Fine work, sir, for making me look like a genius.

To answer your latest attack, I took the entrance exam for the military because it was something I considered doing, and got a perfect score. I decided college was a better option for me. However, that doesn't make me less of a citizen than you, despite what you spew. Whether or not you served in the military has absolutely no bearing on "sucking up to the President". Having an unabashed hate for our elected leader to the point of where I'd fear you'd assassinate him if he ever came to your town is truly dishonorable to our great nation. You not once have given a factual reason WHY you dislike him so much that hasn't been proven incorrect. That leads me to my assumption from before that the two reasons you don't are he's (a) a Democrat and (b) black. Correct me if I'm wrong with ACCURATE WELL STATED FACTS!!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by philcski

YES, in fact they are. I've posted (fully unbiased) links that support my claims, and others that refute YOUR incorrect claims, but you didn't have the decency to even read them!





Thanks for doing exactly what I said you do not 6 hours after I posted it. Fine work, sir, for making me look like a genius.

To answer your latest attack, I took the entrance exam for the military because it was something I considered doing, and got a perfect score. I decided college was a better option for me. However, that doesn't make me less of a citizen than you, despite what you spew. Whether or not you served in the military has absolutely no bearing on "sucking up to the President". Having an unabashed hate for our elected leader to the point of where I'd fear you'd assassinate him if he ever came to your town is truly dishonorable to our great nation. You not once have given a factual reason WHY you dislike him so much that hasn't been proven incorrect. That leads me to my assumption from before that the two reasons you don't are he's (a) a Democrat and (b) black. Correct me if I'm wrong with ACCURATE WELL STATED FACTS!!

exactly.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by philcski

YES, in fact they are. I've posted (fully unbiased) links that support my claims, and others that refute YOUR incorrect claims, but you didn't have the decency to even read them!





Thanks for doing exactly what I said you do not 6 hours after I posted it. Fine work, sir, for making me look like a genius.

To answer your latest attack, I took the entrance exam for the military because it was something I considered doing, and got a perfect score. I decided college was a better option for me. However, that doesn't make me less of a citizen than you, despite what you spew. Whether or not you served in the military has absolutely no bearing on "sucking up to the President". Having an unabashed hate for our elected leader to the point of where I'd fear you'd assassinate him if he ever came to your town is truly dishonorable to our great nation. You not once have given a factual reason WHY you dislike him so much that hasn't been proven incorrect. That leads me to my assumption from before that the two reasons you don't are he's (a) a Democrat and (b) black. Correct me if I'm wrong with ACCURATE WELL STATED FACTS!!

Im not crazy enough to kill a person like you make me out to be. Where is your evidence to support that statement you made? Has the thought come to your feeble mind that im not the only who dislikes our fearless leader? O'Dumbass is too big of a chicked **** to come to Texas. I would hope by now he has figured out by now that Texas is pretty much a Republican state. No I dont think less of you because you went to college. The military isn't for everybody. Your lies about me make think your pathetic and senile. At least im not a racist like you are.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Im not crazy enough to kill a person like you make me out to be. Where is your evidence to support that statement you made? Has the thought come to your feeble mind that im not the only who dislikes our fearless leader? O'Dumbass is too big of a chicked **** to come to Texas. I would hope by now he has figured out by now that Texas is pretty much a Republican state. No I dont think less of you because you went to college. The military isn't for everybody. Your lies about me make think your pathetic and senile. At least im not a racist like you are.

OK, I'm sorry for saying you're crazy enough to kill someone. That's unfair of me. However, the hate you spew for him scares me, quite honestly. You still haven't told me WHY you hate him so much, though, for any reason that hasn't been proven to be false.

Just to be clear, because I don't think you know this, I didn't vote for him either. But I've accepted him as our President and hope he can do the best job possible. The conservative right just will not give him a chance and that really, really bothers me. I didn't like Bush II, either, and despite his shortfalls I accepted him as our President, too, because the people said they wanted him the same way the people said they wanted Obama. I hoped that others would do the same but clearly the bitterness of losing will never go away for many.

By the way, he was in Texas 6 months ago, with HW Bush. He's not a chickensh1t that you make him out to be. http://ochairball.blogspot.com/2009/...-of-light.html


Just for sh1ts and giggles, have you EVER voted for anyone other than a Republican? Would you ever consider voting for anyone but a Republican?

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by philcski

OK, I'm sorry for saying you're crazy enough to kill someone. That's unfair of me. However, the hate you spew for him scares me, quite honestly. You still haven't told me WHY you hate him so much, though, for any reason that hasn't been proven to be false.

Just to be clear, because I don't think you know this, I didn't vote for him either. But I've accepted him as our President and hope he can do the best job possible. The conservative right just will not give him a chance and that really, really bothers me. I didn't like Bush II, either, and despite his shortfalls I accepted him as our President, too, because the people said they wanted him the same way the people said they wanted Obama. I hoped that others would do the same but clearly the bitterness of losing will never go away for many.

By the way, he was in Texas 6 months ago, with HW Bush. He's not a chickensh1t that you make him out to be. http://ochairball.blogspot.com/2009/...-of-light.html


Just for sh1ts and giggles, have you EVER voted for anyone other than a Republican? Would you ever consider voting for anyone but a Republican?

I have voted for a Democrat numerous times. He has been in office since Jan 2009 and our economy is still in shambles. One year and three months in office should be enough time to try to make some fixes to our struggling economy. I am fully aware that he inherited a mess from Bush. I wanted him to succeed, but he hasn't shown me anything that makes me think he wants to be a successful President. Which do you think should be of a higher priority: Health care reform or fixing the economy. He has gone against the majority of Americans who didn't want the health care bill passed. Instead of thinking about his fellow Americans he thinks about himself. He has put his own political party under the table with this health care reform bill and could care less about it. What has he done about securing our borders from these thug drug cartels? Governor Perry has taken the initiative to try to protect the borders of Texas. Would I consider voting for someone other than a Republican? Absolutely I would. I want to vote for the candidate who is going to do the best for the people and not go against thier will.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I have voted for a Democrat numerous times. He has been in office since Jan 2009 and our economy is still in shambles. One year and three months in office should be enough time to try to make some fixes to our struggling economy. I am fully aware that he inherited a mess from Bush. I wanted him to succeed, but he hasn't shown me anything that makes me think he wants to be a successful President. Which do you think should be of a higher priority: Health care reform or fixing the economy. He has gone against the majority of Americans who didn't want the health care bill passed. Instead of thinking about his fellow Americans he thinks about himself. He has put his own political party under the table with this health care reform bill and could care less about it. What has he done about securing our borders from these thug drug cartels? Governor Perry has taken the initiative to try to protect the borders of Texas. Would I consider voting for someone other than a Republican? Absolutely I would. I want to vote for the candidate who is going to do the best for the people and not go against thier will.

I disagree completely. I think it is often a good thing for elected officials to go against the will of the people.
The majority is often ill-informed and wrong.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I have voted for a Democrat numerous times. He has been in office since Jan 2009 and our economy is still in shambles. One year and three months in office should be enough time to try to make some fixes to our struggling economy. I am fully aware that he inherited a mess from Bush. I wanted him to succeed, but he hasn't shown me anything that makes me think he wants to be a successful President. Which do you think should be of a higher priority: Health care reform or fixing the economy. He has gone against the majority of Americans who didn't want the health care bill passed. Instead of thinking about his fellow Americans he thinks about himself. He has put his own political party under the table with this health care reform bill and could care less about it. What has he done about securing our borders from these thug drug cartels? Governor Perry has taken the initiative to try to protect the borders of Texas. Would I consider voting for someone other than a Republican? Absolutely I would. I want to vote for the candidate who is going to do the best for the people and not go against thier will.

When are people like you going to get it through your heads that these two things are not mutually exclusive? The former is an avenue to achieve the latter.

And you can't possibly be that simple to think that any president who does something unpopular is automatically acting only out of self-interest. That presupposes that the majority of Americans know exactly what's best for the country despite the complexity of the issues.

Hell, Obama said on the campaign trail that he wouldn't always do what's popular. You'd prefer a president that always does what the polls say most people want, despite an often misinformed public? Seriously? What if the majority of the public isn't on your side? Would you still be down for that?

Even though I hated most of Bush's decisions, I'm not foolish enough to criticize him simply for not adhering to what polls say people want. I also had to laugh at you talking about how everything should be about the economy, then two sentences later, whining about how Obama's not doing enough to stop Mexican drug dealers? Way to stay on base.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

You're putting words in my mouth that I never said. We can be tough and still have a heart. And, I'm not as afraid about "kooks in other lands" as I've become of the "kooks in D.C.", and not all of them are Democrats.

Sure we can! Say... got another dollar I can tax you on so I can spend it on a bigger military or send it to Israel?


So your choice... less tough and less heart, but less money out of your pocket, or more tough and more heart, and more money out of your pocket. What you say?

Originally Posted by Riot

Yeah, this is one interesting race!

I hate these attacking commercials. Followed by a group orgy "supporting" the guy from their party they just trashed in the primaries. Rand Paul is the son of the most conservative guy in Congress but he's far more progressive than his father and far, far, far more progressive than that kook Trey Grayson, whom I half expect to move his campaign office to the Creation Museum...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by philcski

OK, I'm sorry for saying you're crazy enough to kill someone. That's unfair of me. However, the hate you spew for him scares me, quite honestly. You still haven't told me WHY you hate him so much, though, for any reason that hasn't been proven to be false.

Just to be clear, because I don't think you know this, I didn't vote for him either. But I've accepted him as our President and hope he can do the best job possible. The conservative right just will not give him a chance and that really, really bothers me. I didn't like Bush II, either, and despite his shortfalls I accepted him as our President, too, because the people said they wanted him the same way the people said they wanted Obama. I hoped that others would do the same but clearly the bitterness of losing will never go away for many.

By the way, he was in Texas 6 months ago, with HW Bush. He's not a chickensh1t that you make him out to be. http://ochairball.blogspot.com/2009/...-of-light.html


Just for sh1ts and giggles, have you EVER voted for anyone other than a Republican? Would you ever consider voting for anyone but a Republican?

this and your previous post were right on. well done.