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Old 04-11-2010, 02:09 PM
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“She’s so much better on the dirt,” continued Baffert, who is preparing 2-year-old champion Lookin At Lucky for the Kentucky Derby on May 1. “When you get them on the dirt, they can really show their brilliance. He (Mike Smith) never turned her loose. You could run her back next week. She earned what, $300,000, to work a mile and an eighth in 1:50? She can run in 1:48.”

“I’m absolutely amazed that Zenyatta’s done everything you would have asked of her,” said Hall of Fame trainer McAnally,
“I think Shirreffs has done a marvelous job with her, spacing her races and doing the right thing with her. I liked Zenyatta against Rachel Alexandra before the (Horse of the Year) voting and I liked her after the voting. I thought the Eastern voters made a big mistake making Rachel the Horse of the Year. The people back East have more votes than they have out here and I think they realize now that they made a huge mistake.

“I know Rachel wasn’t fit enough to win her first out in New Orleans this year. I could see the handwriting on the wall right from the beginning. But even had she been fit and they ran together tomorrow in the Apple Blossom, to me there’s no question that Zenyatta would have beaten her.” “I really thought that Rachel Alexandra deserved Horse of the Year, but at the same time, I never had any doubt in my mind, and I don’t even need to see them run against each other, to know that she’s not as good as Zenyatta,” said veteran trainer Paul Aguirre, who saddled Malibu Artiste to win Wednesday’s fourth race.

“I’ve been around racing 30 years. There are things a lot of us trainers don’t know, but we all know a freak when we see a freak, and Zenyatta stands head and shoulders above all the horses I’ve ever seen.”

“I always thought Zenyatta would beat Rachel Alexandra on any surface, as long as it wasn’t in a match race, where Rachel would get an easy lead,” offered trainer Vladimir Cerin. “Zenyatta should have been Horse of the Year in 2009, because what she accomplished last year was enough to make her one of the all-time great race mares. Rachel Alexandra accomplished a lot, but we don’t know if she’s one of the all-time greats. So if you’re one of the all-time greats, and the other one is or isn’t, you should be Horse of the Year, no question about it.

“I’d like to see Rachel Alexandra do well and I’d love to see them compete against each other, but obviously, they’re afraid of Zenyatta and they’re not going to run against her.” “Rachel Alexandra is a wonderful, beautiful, lovely filly, but I think Zenyatta is far superior,” said Kathy Walsh, a successful trainer for more than four decades. “But by the same token, I think Rachel Alexandra ran against a class of 3-year-olds that maybe were sub par last year, maybe not. None of them jumped up real strong after she beat them, and the older horses she beat in the Woodward seemed to go downhill afterwards.

“But Zenyatta took on the best in the world and won as she pleased. Opinions are going to be East versus West, and that’s never going to change. I was in Hot Springs recently and the arguments were about which horse was best, but I’ll tell you this: they were all waiting for Zenyatta to come there.”
I am so sick of this back and forth. Some stupid phucking sound bytes from some California trainers doesn't prove an argument one way or another. Enough of this crap. Who cares until they settle it on the track.
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Old 04-11-2010, 04:48 PM
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I am so sick of this back and forth. Some stupid phucking sound bytes from some California trainers doesn't prove an argument one way or another. Enough of this crap. Who cares until they settle it on the track.
I figured I had to post something to get my post count up with my 5 to 6 month sabbatical, just passing through to see how the fanclub was doing Phil.
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Old 04-11-2010, 04:56 PM
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Drugs as i'm sure you know horses are pack animals. Some are leaders and want to be in front, some are followers and will run in the pack. I think their disposition has as much to do with winning as their talent. The difference between a mediocre racehorse and a very good horse is slight. There is an X factor that comes into play when these horses are put into a competitve situation. A better example of Dale Jr stock car would be vol Jack sitting at a dinner table next to Joey chestnut with 30 hotdogs in front of him. Yes Joey chestnut is a very good hotdog eater but I believe vol Jack would do just enough to win. He gets compeitive and so does zenyatta. More to it than just who's fast and who isn't.
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Old 04-11-2010, 05:01 PM
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I figured I had to post something to get my post count up with my 5 to 6 month sabbatical, just passing through to see how the fanclub was doing Phil.
And you didn't lose your form on the layoff, that's for sure.
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Old 04-11-2010, 05:07 PM
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And you didn't lose your form on the layoff, that's for sure.
I would post a picture of Oscar and Felix but I am too lazy.
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Old 04-11-2010, 07:26 PM
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I am so sick of this back and forth. Some stupid phucking sound bytes from some California trainers doesn't prove an argument one way or another. Enough of this crap. Who cares until they settle it on the track.
Sums up my feelings too.
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Old 04-11-2010, 07:33 PM
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I really hope both horses are injured (not seriously) and retired. Then I hope all of you on both sides spontaneously combust and your remains splatter all over your loved ones and friends.
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Old 04-11-2010, 08:01 PM
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The prior post is a pleasant and uplifting offering ...

Is there something one can ingest for a constipated soul ???
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Old 04-11-2010, 08:12 PM
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The prior post is a pleasant and uplifting offering ...

Is there something one can ingest for a constipated soul ???
Make me dinner and put me out of my misery.
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Old 04-11-2010, 08:18 PM
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Make me dinner and put me out of my misery.
Ah but a meal Chez Prudery would be most revitalizing--shoot off mister ...
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Old 04-11-2010, 08:42 PM
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Ah but a meal Chez Prudery would be most revitalizing--shoot off mister ...
Put your cane down.
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Old 04-11-2010, 08:03 PM
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What needs to be settled? 3rd string Z kicked the Horse of the Year's ass and she's in HIDING. She's making like a DUCK. The thought of getting doubled team down in Arkansas basically had the connections about to lose their breakfast. **** happens. I mean, even Forever Together has turned into a (relative) hanger.

I'm sure RA's connections (and, of course, the DRF, and thus Beyer) appreciate all the support on these forums.


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Old 04-11-2010, 08:07 PM
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What needs to be settled? 3rd string Z kicked the Horse of the Year's ass and she's in HIDING. She's making like a DUCK. The thought of getting doubled team down in Arkansas basically had the connections about to lose their breakfast. **** happens. I mean, even Forever Together has turned into a (relative) hanger.

I'm sure RA's connections (and, of course, the DRF, and thus Beyer) appreciate all the support on these forums.


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Can I ask why you refer to Zardana as "3rd string Z?" I'm trying to figure out who's 2nd string.

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Old 04-11-2010, 08:19 PM
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Can I ask why you refer to Zardana as "3rd string Z?" I'm trying to figure out who's 2nd string.

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Wouldn't Life is Sweet be the 2nd string mare in that barn?

Ironically, LIS shouldn't be able to beat RA.
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Old 04-11-2010, 08:21 PM
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Wouldn't Life is Sweet be the 2nd string mare in that barn?

Ironically, LIS shouldn't be able to beat RA.
I guess Life is Sweet was 2nd string but I think it would be somewhat difficult to imagine her beating Rachel on dirt. Zardana at least had some dirt background but Life is Sweet's only dirt race (obviously a small sample) was horrendous.

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Old 04-12-2010, 09:06 AM
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Can I ask why you refer to Zardana as "3rd string Z?" I'm trying to figure out who's 2nd string.

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I would wait till Zardana's next race most likely at CD before even putting her that high on any list, right now you guys are setting her up for a huge fall if she doesn't repeat her race in the N.O Ladies, her races in Brazil look nice on paper but that's quite a leap to think she is going to be this all world dirt performer in NA. It is curious why Sheriff's and McAnally never tried her on dirt until now...one thing's for sure she will most likely be an underlay in her next start.
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