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| Little Current |
  
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7 | 14.00% |
| Thunder Gulch |
  
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12 | 24.00% |
| Inchcape |
  
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1 | 2.00% |
| Thingumabob |
  
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3 | 6.00% |
| Sham |
  
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10 | 20.00% |
| Flying Paster |
  
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0 | 0% |
| Hoist The Flag |
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9 | 18.00% |
| Scapa Flow 2 |
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3 | 6.00% |
| Worth |
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1 | 2.00% |
| Roving Boy |
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4 | 8.00% |
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#1
04-11-2010, 02:59 PM
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I agree you know who I think might be a forgotten horse one day? Point Given.
If he had won the Derby Immortality would have awaited him but that one lost race will haunt him. People tend to look over a horse who wins only the 2nd two legs of the triple crown. I think Musket Man is a great horse. He's all heart!!! Not a great pedigree. He wins based on his determination and courage. He should be much more popular. But alas he isn't and sadly this great horse is overshadowed by his contemporaries. He should be a star in my opinion. Caracortado has more devoted fans than Musket Man and Musket Man is a great story. Placing in both the Derby and Preakness!!! What a shame he is not more loved. What about Bimelech??? Steve Byck mentioned him on his show the other day. He really deserved to win the Triple Crown!!! 
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04-11-2010, 03:20 PM
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I guess I'd have to vote for Inchcape or Scapa Flow.....because I have absolutely no idea who those horses are. I don't think I've ever heard of them, so I guess they must be forgotten.
Also, isn't calling Musket Man "great" employing a fairly loose definition of the word?
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04-11-2010, 03:27 PM
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I guess your right about calling Musket Man "great" what I mean is for his Pedigree what he accomplished is Great. A horse with his background should have no chance of placing in two-thirds of the triple crown. His determination and heart obviously have carried him a long way. I think it's greatness to accomplish what he has with his background. But if I'm wrong to think this please school me. I'm always game to learn. It's just my opinion thus far.
Maybe greatness isn't the word? Also Scapa Flow 2: here's his background. Man O War's 1924 crop produced the champion 2-year-old and Futurity winner Scapa Flow.Scapa Flow, brought honor to the colors of Mrs. W.M. Jeffords, the owner of Golden Broom and Hoodwink, by earning the 1926 Juvenile Championship. His wins that season had included the Futurity Stakes. He was one of Man O' Wars most promising offspring until he tragically broke down. He was poised for greatness in the eyes of many and now it's hard to find more than what I've posted here on the internet about him.
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04-11-2010, 03:22 PM
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04-11-2010, 03:29 PM
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seeing as sham has a stakes named after him, i'd think you can't call him forgotten. one who should be on there-sir barton. the first t.c. winner, and one hell of a horse. dismal failure as a stud had him sent to the west as a cavalry remount. and of course his race is now named the barbaro.
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#7
04-11-2010, 03:32 PM
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A horse like Sham deserves more than a stakes named after him in my opinion. I think he needs a hall of fame recognition. Stakes names change. The hall of fame is forever.
How many people really think about Sham??? Not many.
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#8
04-11-2010, 03:34 PM
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For a horse who holds the record for second fastest derby ever run it's funny how he isn't even listed as one of the top 100 races horses of the 20th century by bloodhorse. Had he not raced against secretariat I believe he might have been put on that list. He certainly could have outrun all other derby runners but the one he ran against on that day.
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04-11-2010, 05:10 PM
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he's third now, isn't he, after monarchos?
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04-11-2010, 06:46 PM
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RIP Monroe.
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04-11-2010, 07:43 PM
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Still trying to outsmart me, aren't you, mule-skinner? You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is you really don't want me to go down there!
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#13
04-11-2010, 07:45 PM
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The versatile Turkoman should be added to the list.
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Still trying to outsmart me, aren't you, mule-skinner? You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is you really don't want me to go down there!
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04-11-2010, 08:19 PM
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Not sure any on the list can exactly be called great--a subjective word--though some seemed destined for greatness, particularly Hoist The Flag .
Nice to see Inchcape remembered--ran three times only , won one stake , broke down twice, but was so impressive that he was thought to be the next Man O' War--a year his junior ... I would add Hilsdale, Dark Mirage, Hill Gail, Mongo, TV Lark, Silver Spoon , Cicada, Princess Rooney, Alsab and Billy Kelly to a group of forgotten goods or greats for a start ... Arts and Letters another ...
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04-11-2010, 09:28 PM
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"Not sure any on the list can exactly be called great--a subjective word--though some seemed destined for greatness," this makes so much sense to me. I should have titled my article horses who seemed destind for greatness.
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#16
04-13-2010, 10:16 PM
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While I'm at it, I've read about this race a bunch of times, but this is the first time I've found it. Devil's Bag - Champagne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRZai...eature=related
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