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View Poll Results: Which of theses great horses do you think is the most forgotten?
Little Current 7 14.00%
Thunder Gulch 12 24.00%
Inchcape 1 2.00%
Thingumabob 3 6.00%
Sham 10 20.00%
Flying Paster 0 0%
Hoist The Flag 9 18.00%
Scapa Flow 2 3 6.00%
Worth 1 2.00%
Roving Boy 4 8.00%
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Old 04-11-2010, 12:46 PM
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Hey Charlie.
Majestic Prince is another Great forgotten horse. I feel if not for breaking down in the belmont he would have won the triple crown.
It was stupid of his owners to run him in the belmont.
I think that loss cost him 3 year old honors to Arts and Letters.
But yes Majestic Prince, like Tim Tam, is a much overlooked and forgotten horse.
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Old 04-11-2010, 01:16 PM
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Hey Charlie.
Majestic Prince is another Great forgotten horse. I feel if not for breaking down in the belmont he would have won the triple crown.
It was stupid of his owners to run him in the belmont.
I think that loss cost him 3 year old honors to Arts and Letters.
But yes Majestic Prince, like Tim Tam, is a much overlooked and forgotten horse.
Yup.

He probably was an all timer.

Native Dancer too, though he's somewhat less a forgotten horse than the others on this list.
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Old 04-11-2010, 01:59 PM
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I agree you know who I think might be a forgotten horse one day? Point Given.
If he had won the Derby Immortality would have awaited him but that one lost race will haunt him. People tend to look over a horse who wins only the 2nd two legs of the triple crown.

I think Musket Man is a great horse. He's all heart!!! Not a great pedigree. He wins based on his determination and courage. He should be much more popular. But alas he isn't and sadly this great horse is overshadowed by his contemporaries.

He should be a star in my opinion. Caracortado has more devoted fans than Musket Man and Musket Man is a great story. Placing in both the Derby and Preakness!!! What a shame he is not more loved.

What about Bimelech??? Steve Byck mentioned him on his show the other day. He really deserved to win the Triple Crown!!!
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Old 04-11-2010, 02:20 PM
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I guess I'd have to vote for Inchcape or Scapa Flow.....because I have absolutely no idea who those horses are. I don't think I've ever heard of them, so I guess they must be forgotten.

Also, isn't calling Musket Man "great" employing a fairly loose definition of the word?
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Old 04-11-2010, 02:27 PM
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I guess your right about calling Musket Man "great" what I mean is for his Pedigree what he accomplished is Great. A horse with his background should have no chance of placing in two-thirds of the triple crown. His determination and heart obviously have carried him a long way. I think it's greatness to accomplish what he has with his background. But if I'm wrong to think this please school me. I'm always game to learn. It's just my opinion thus far.

Maybe greatness isn't the word?

Also Scapa Flow 2: here's his background.
Man O War's 1924 crop produced the champion 2-year-old and Futurity winner Scapa Flow.Scapa Flow, brought honor to the colors of Mrs. W.M. Jeffords, the owner of Golden Broom and Hoodwink, by earning the 1926 Juvenile Championship. His wins that season had included the Futurity Stakes.
He was one of Man O' Wars most promising offspring until he tragically broke down.
He was poised for greatness in the eyes of many and now it's hard to find more than what I've posted here on the internet about him.
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Old 04-11-2010, 02:22 PM
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I think Musket Man is a great horse.
I don't.
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Old 04-11-2010, 02:28 PM
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risen star is all but forgotten about. the second fastest belmont time behind his dad.
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Old 04-11-2010, 02:29 PM
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seeing as sham has a stakes named after him, i'd think you can't call him forgotten. one who should be on there-sir barton. the first t.c. winner, and one hell of a horse. dismal failure as a stud had him sent to the west as a cavalry remount. and of course his race is now named the barbaro.
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Old 04-11-2010, 02:32 PM
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A horse like Sham deserves more than a stakes named after him in my opinion. I think he needs a hall of fame recognition. Stakes names change. The hall of fame is forever.

How many people really think about Sham??? Not many.
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Old 04-11-2010, 06:43 PM
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risen star is all but forgotten about. the second fastest belmont time behind his dad.
May have been a Triple Crown winner if Eddie D had not taken him seven wide on the far turn in the Derby.
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Old 04-11-2010, 06:45 PM
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The versatile Turkoman should be added to the list.
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