McNabb to Redskins

[slotdirt]

My greatest Donovan memory is probably the two separate times he vomited inbetween plays in like the 2004 season. One time was against Jacksonville.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

My greatest Donovan memory is probably the two separate times he vomited inbetween plays in like the 2004 season. One time was against Jacksonville.

I'll never forget that play where he ran behind the line of scrimmage for like 12 or 13 seconds and threw a bomb to like Pinkston or Mitchell or some crappy reciever for a big play. That was a great play. McNabb made a ton of great plays with his legs. He was a much better mobile QB then he is a pocket passer. When he changed the way he played (stopped running) it took a lot away from his game.

It also would have helped if he had a solid running game. He's not made for the West Coast offense because the short dump passes are basically the same as the running game. Thing is McNabb just isnt good at short dump passes!! Doesnt play to his strengths... and his weakness is accuracy.

I also dont buy the "he never had weapons" excuse everyone always uses. He had a very good O-line the majority of his career. That is the very most important thing for a QB. Sure he didnt have pro bowl recievers, but he had pro bowl O-lines. Much more important for a QB. NFL quality recievers are still good even if they arent Jerry Rice when the QB has a lot of time to throw them the ball. He also had B-West who was one of the most dangerous targets in the league for many years. If that isnt a weapon I dont know what is. The "never had recievers" thing is the most overrated and over used excuse for McNabb. The running game is a valid excuse however.

He's also very physically tough. Played through things that other QB's wouldnt have. Very admirable. I would call his mental toughness a weakness though, because he would very rarely come up big in 2 minute drill situations, REALLY big game situations.. And he has an absolutely terrible record in games decided by less than 7 points. He just cant lead a team down the field to win a game (yeah I know 4th and 26.. but that was one play and a great catch).

Another one of his big issues is that he hold onto the ball for way too long. Get sacked a lot because of that.. and its really not the O-lines fault a lot. He takes sacks instead of getting rid of the ball. That is why he doesnt have many interceptions, so you can make a positive out of that. I think we will see the # of sacks go WAY down with Kolb. Kolb gets the ball out quick.

One of the classiest athletes Philly has ever seen and ever will see. Great for the community and never whined about not being treated fairly. It really was a crappy moment when he was boo'd when drafted. He didnt deserve that and it turns out he was the best pick from that draft. At least with 100 mil in his bank account he probably doesnt worry about that draft day.


See.. thats how I feel about McNabb. I'm not a McNabb "hater". I'll still wear my McNabb jersey proudly... eventhough I really want a Maclin jersey!!

[slotdirt]

Let's be honest though, who's the best receiver Donovan had to toss the pill to over his Eagles career? TO for parts of two years due to injuries, then who, Da'Sean Jackson maybe? James Thrash, Todd Pinkston, and Freddie "the People's Champion" Mitchell weren't exactly Biletnikoff and Lynn Swann.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Let's be honest though, who's the best receiver Donovan had to toss the pill to over his Eagles career? TO for parts of two years due to injuries, then who, Da'Sean Jackson maybe? James Thrash, Todd Pinkston, and Freddie "the People's Champion" Mitchell weren't exactly Biletnikoff and Lynn Swann.

TO and D Jax easily. 3 1/2 years of having a really good #1 QB.. 7 1/2 years of very average WR's.

But like I said, considering the top quality of the O-line, I really think the WR excuse is incredibly overrated. If you asked any QB if they'd rather have a mediocre O - line and great WR's.. or a great O-line and mediocre WR's, I'm sure every one would answer the same way.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

TO and D Jax easily. 3 1/2 years of having a really good #1 QB.. 7 1/2 years of very average WR's.

But like I said, considering the top quality of the O-line, I really think the WR excuse is incredibly overrated. If you asked any QB if they'd rather have a mediocre O - line and great WR's.. or a great O-line and mediocre WR's, I'm sure every one would answer the same way.

Great point...although I think it would depend on the QB. A mobile QB like Mcnabb probably could have done better with more talented receivers and a less skilled o-line. Manning would probably take the better line.

[SniperSB23]

LOL at this thread I missed

Skins win more games than the Eagles next year.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

LOL at this thread I missed

Skins win more games than the Eagles next year.

HAHAHAHA! What, have you been smoking crack during your layoff from DT?

Eagles won 11 games last year, with a piss poor defense. Skins won 4.

No QB is worth a 7 game difference. Especially McNabb. He's not going to be much of a change from Campell or Cambell however it was spelled. Skins are still old and have no Offensive Line. McNabb gets sacked more than average cause he wont throw the ball away, he's going to be sacked all the time next year. Shanahan will make the Skins improve a little... McNabb, not so much, or the Eagles wouldnt have traded him to the Skins (that tells you a lot right there). Kolb will be more productive than McNabb next year. McNabb will be similar to Jason Cambell in the results department. The only thing that will help McNabb this year is that Washington actually runs the ball. The Eagles offensive weapons are so much better than Washingtons.

Eagles have issues, at the moment I see them as a 9 game winner next year. The current players like Kolb more than McNabb, they respect him as a leader, one who leads by example. The defense is just too young and the O - line has some question marks so I dont see the Birds making the playoffs.

Skins will be a little better because Shanahan. I can see them improving to a 6 win, possibly 7 win team. There is no fucl<ing way that they win more games than the Eagles next year. I'm willing to bet a night on the town at the Spa on that (dinner and drinks whenever I make it to Toga again).