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Old 04-03-2010, 11:29 PM
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Still, to say we will get him Bailey DVDs is beyond insulting.
I'm sure he was just venting.

But hey, I'd take JB over GG in a second.
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Old 04-03-2010, 11:30 PM
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I'm sure he was just venting.

But hey, I'd take JB over GG in a second.
No comment works well
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Old 04-03-2010, 11:31 PM
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I disagree.

These freakin dumbass pinhead jocks need to get blasted publicly way more often.
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Old 04-03-2010, 11:33 PM
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I disagree.

These freakin dumbass pinhead jocks need to get blasted publicly way more often.
I don't think GG was why that horse lost today.
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Old 04-03-2010, 11:34 PM
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Still, to say we will get him Bailey DVDs is beyond insulting.

I thought it was Classic.
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Old 04-03-2010, 11:47 PM
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I don't think GG was why that horse lost today.
1. I never said he was.
2. It was a dumb ride.
3. Jocks tend to overthink things, and by overthink, I mean think at all.
4. As a result of #3, for most jocks, bad things are going to happen.

It was a well deserved and funny quip.
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Old 04-03-2010, 11:53 PM
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Just showed highlights of the major preps on sports center just now and said that Gomez landed a few punches on Espinoza before they were separated
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Old 04-04-2010, 01:59 AM
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Lucky had a very rough trip but gathered it up and passed every thing but Sids candy in the stretch only to get caught by Mandellas colt. Is everyone going to forget Mandellas colt and dwell on Luckys troubles?

I learned a new handicapping angle at the Santa Anita Derby today.

Go with the horse that has the most girls with blond hair in short dresses in the paddock.
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Old 04-04-2010, 06:21 AM
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Thats hilarious. I bet him off those last two works! LOL. How did you guys feel about the performance?
I think everyone was pleased with the way the colt ran.
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Old 04-04-2010, 07:41 AM
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I don't think GG was why that horse lost today.
Gomez ride stunk up the place and he deserves the crap abuot his poor position of Looking at Lucky.

He put LAL in a place to be trapped and that's what happened.

Baffert should put Victor on Lookin at Lucky.
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Old 04-04-2010, 08:52 AM
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If he takes GG off the colt dosent he get the 1st call of Pletcher after JR stays aboard the Wood winner? Not a bad switch for GG.
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Old 04-04-2010, 09:13 AM
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Apparently Jill Baffert voiced her opinion to Espinoza in the paddock before a later race.

"Baffert was in the saddling area to oversee his three entries in another stakes race when Espinoza walked by. "Are you trying to kill my jockey?" he said.

Baffert's wife, Jill, then lit into Espinoza, asking why he tried to unseat Gomez. Espinoza repeatedly denied any wrongdoing as she continued her rant while her husband and fans watched."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...jry_AD9ERTF2G0

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Old 04-04-2010, 09:19 AM
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Apparently Jill Baffert voiced her opinion to Espinoza in the paddock before a later race.

"Baffert was in the saddling area to oversee his three entries in another stakes race when Espinoza walked by. "Are you trying to kill my jockey?" he said.

Baffert's wife, Jill, then lit into Espinoza, asking why he tried to unseat Gomez. Espinoza repeatedly denied any wrongdoing as she continued her rant while her husband and fans watched."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...jry_AD9ERTF2G0

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Old 04-04-2010, 09:20 AM
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Jill?! Go on a crazy rant?


Never!
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Old 04-04-2010, 09:28 AM
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Jill?! Go on a crazy rant?


Never!
We all know the class act that is Jill Baffert. I better shut up or maybe Bob will threaten to have the site shut down.

Here is yet another article. After watching the replay, I think she and Gomez have a good point. That was pretty dirt on Espinoza's part.


http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...fter-big-race/
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Old 04-04-2010, 09:50 AM
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That was pretty dirt on Espinoza's part.
You don't let an odds-on favorite force his way up inside of you at that point in the race.

Look at what Migliore and Cohen both did to an odds-on favorite in the Whirlaway. Migliore intentionally cut him off - veered inward sharply and got his own horse cut in the back leg - and Cohen went WAY out of his way to gun and intimidate going into the 1st turn.

What's Espinoza supposed to do - push the horse to his outside out and give Lookin At Lucky a VIP invite path up the rail because Gomez wanted to save ground? Saving ground is close to pointless on that track anyway.

Anyone who thinks Espinoza was totally out of horse at that point is kidding themselves .. you're never out of horse that early on synthetic. It's not like they were flying up front.
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Old 04-04-2010, 10:11 AM
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You don't let an odds-on favorite force his way up inside of you at that point in the race.

Look at what Migliore and Cohen both did to an odds-on favorite in the Whirlaway. Migliore intentionally cut him off - veered inward sharply and got his own horse cut in the back leg - and Cohen went WAY out of his way to gun and intimidate going into the 1st turn.

What's Espinoza supposed to do - push the horse to his outside out and give Lookin At Lucky a VIP invite path up the rail because Gomez wanted to save ground? Saving ground is close to pointless on that track anyway.

Anyone who thinks Espinoza was totally out of horse at that point is kidding themselves .. you're never out of horse that early on synthetic. It's not like they were flying up front.
Doug, what is your opinion on Candy now? Im guessing the beyer is in the 100-105 range, and Im also thinking he can still improve first time dirt. Are you really going to jump off?
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Old 04-04-2010, 10:22 AM
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Anyone who thinks Espinoza was totally out of horse at that point is kidding themselves .. you're never out of horse that early on synthetic. It's not like they were flying up front.
Right. I don't want my RETARDS trying to win races (which is hard enough for them) but, rather, I want them to be out there trying to **** with the other RETARDS. ****** demolition/roller derby. Any jock that intentionally hugs the rail on a tiring horse just needs to be fined. There's absolutely no justification for it.
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Old 04-04-2010, 10:26 AM
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Right. I don't want my RETARDS trying to win races (which is hard enough for them) but, rather, I want them to be out there trying to **** with the other RETARDS. ****** demolition/roller derby. Any jock that intentionally hugs the rail on a tiring horse just needs to be fined. There's absolutely no justification for it.
For someone like yourself, who loves the syn-dirt move, are you not happy about this? LAL goes from the clear cut second choice, to maybe the 3,4 choice depening on the Arkansas Derby result.
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Old 04-04-2010, 10:27 AM
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Doug, what is your opinion on Candy now? Im guessing the beyer is in the 100-105 range, and Im also thinking he can still improve first time dirt. Are you really going to jump off?
do you still expect him to be 20-1?
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