First call to impeach Obama, depending on what he does...

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Like the people who make more than 200k a year?

So taxes based on how much money people make are exactly the same as taxes on people based on who they are?

Riiiiiiiiight. Good try, Chuck.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

So taxes based on how much money people make are exactly the same as taxes on people based on who they are?

Riiiiiiiiight. Good try, Chuck.

Well the people who make more than 200k now get taxed at a higher rate yet will mostly get worse coverage. They are paying for the rest of us with no benefit. Kind of sucks to pay more with no benefit, no?

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Well the people who make more than 200k now get taxed at a higher rate yet will mostly get worse coverage. They are paying for the rest of us with no benefit. Kind of sucks to pay more with no benefit, no?

And gays who make more than $200K pay those same taxes as well, because those don't discriminate based on WHO someone is, but how much money they make...like nearly all taxes.

Yay, great that you're upset about taxes....but it doesn't address the meat of what I was saying, though I'm not even sure if you think it does...

Let's just tax blacks at 5% higher than everyone else while we're at it and just pretend it's a matter of "oh tough luck, those are taxes...sucks to get taxed with no benefit, right?"

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

And gays who make more than $200K pay those same taxes as well, because those don't discriminate based on WHO someone is, but how much money they make...like nearly all taxes.

Yay, great that you're upset about taxes....but it doesn't address the meat of what I was saying, though I'm not even sure if you think it does...

LOL, I understand they arent the same issue, just wanted to point out that some Americans are getting screwed by this bill, straight and gay...

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

LOL, I understand they arent the same issue, just wanted to point out that some Americans are getting screwed by this bill, straight and gay...

Well if that's your stance, then that's completely true -- but they're getting screwed, in your terms, en masse, without regard to WHO they are.

Whereas, this bill does nothing to change the status quo for the LGBT community, and it had every chance to, the bill didn't actually make them worse off...it just made for a pathetic display that they chose to forgo a very obvious, easy way to fix a discriminatory tax inequity, and elected not to.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Well if that's your stance, then that's completely true -- but they're getting screwed, in your terms, en masse, without regard to WHO they are.

Whereas, this bill does nothing to change the status quo for the LGBT community, and it had every chance to, the bill didn't actually make them worse off...it just made for a pathetic display that they chose to forgo a very obvious, easy way to fix a discriminatory tax inequity, and elected not to.

They had to bribe, arm twist, make backroom deals, pressure, beg, etc to get this bill passed by 5 votes. That is seemingly forgotten during the victory celebration. There are enough homophobic constitutes that this wouldnt have passed with that language in it. You are right, it is wrong but lets face it, gays are voting Dem no matter what they do and Obama/Pelosi werent going to risk not passing this thing because of them. I will bet you this though, they will try to change it.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

They had to bribe, arm twist, make backroom deals, pressure, beg, etc to get this bill passed by 5 votes. That is seemingly forgotten during the victory celebration. There are enough homophobic constitutes that this wouldnt have passed with that language in it. You are right, it is wrong but lets face it, gays are voting Dem no matter what they do and Obama/Pelosi werent going to risk not passing this thing because of them. I will bet you this though, they will try to change it.

LGBT community is becoming quite a bit like the "pro-life" community on the other side. Lots of lip service, no meaningful change, as long as the money and votes keep coming because there is nowhere else to go that isn't exponentially worse that has any chance of having any power. Take the Dems who kind of don't mind you, and will maybe throw a good thing or two your way every now and then, or take the Repubs, a very good deal of whom are afraid of you, hate you, don't care if they treat you unfairly, or just plain old hope you burn in hell...and it's sort of a no-win situation, taking scraps because scraps are better than undoing decades worth of progress.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

They had to bribe, arm twist, make backroom deals, pressure, beg, etc to get this bill passed by 5 votes. That is seemingly forgotten during the victory celebration. There are enough homophobic constitutes that this wouldnt have passed with that language in it. You are right, it is wrong but lets face it, gays are voting Dem no matter what they do and Obama/Pelosi werent going to risk not passing this thing because of them. I will bet you this though, they will try to change it.

Pretty sad all the deals that O'Dumbass had to make to get this bill to only pass by five votes. Im sure the Democrats are celebrating a victory comes November im hoping there will be hell to be paid to these worthless Democrats. Im going to laugh when O'Dumbass renigs on his deal with Stupak about the abortion clause. Correct me if im wrong federal money isnt to be used for abortion, only for emergency purposes. If this is the case someone help me out here why was this clause put in the bill? Thanks for your help.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

And gays who make more than $200K pay those same taxes as well, because those don't discriminate based on WHO someone is, but how much money they make...like nearly all taxes.

Yay, great that you're upset about taxes....but it doesn't address the meat of what I was saying, though I'm not even sure if you think it does...

Let's just tax blacks at 5% higher than everyone else while we're at it and just pretend it's a matter of "oh tough luck, those are taxes...sucks to get taxed with no benefit, right?"

my idea lately has been that if gays are not allowed to receive they same tax breaks as the rest of america are... than gay people should not have to pay taxes.

I think that is quite fair.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

my idea lately has been that if gays are not allowed to receive they same tax breaks as the rest of america are... than gay people should not have to pay taxes.

I think that is quite fair.

I like that idea!

I am now officially gay then! LOL

[SCUDSBROTHER]

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[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by philcski

I like that idea!

I am now officially gay then! LOL

just remember you cant be gay AND married!! at least not where you live!