First call to impeach Obama, depending on what he does...

[Nascar1966]

O'Dumbass could care less about this country. He is going to get his say no matter what the people want. He will also do it at the expense of his Democratic party members. I have not seen as much dealing as this SOB has done to get his health reform bill to pass. I thought this was a Democratic society where the people have a choice. I guess it wont this as long as this bastard is President. Hope he enjoys having the majority for now. It might be a different story in November. He is having a rough time getting a bill to pass and he has the numbers on his side. Going to be interesting when he doest have the numbers. Im sure he will veto every bill the Republicans sponser if the Republicans are the majority. This will be his way of saying f you for the way the Republicans voted on the Health reform bill. Where is the money going to come from for this health reform bill? Im sure O'Dumbass will might take the executive order for the abortion part of the bill and Make Stupak look like the dumbass that he is. If O'Dumbass gets impeached Pelosi and Reid should not too far behind him. Maybe the three of them can get impeached at the same time.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

O'Dumbass could care less about this country. He is going to get his say no matter what the people want. He will also do it at the expense of his Democratic party members. I have not seen as much dealing as this SOB has done to get his health reform bill to pass. I thought this was a Democratic society where the people have a choice. I guess it wont this as long as this bastard is President. Hope he enjoys having the majority for now. It might be a different story in November. He is having a rough time getting a bill to pass and he has the numbers on his side. Going to be interesting when he doest have the numbers. Im sure he will veto every bill the Republicans sponser if the Republicans are the majority. This will be his way of saying f you for the way the Republicans voted on the Health reform bill. Where is the money going to come from for this health reform bill? Im sure O'Dumbass will might take the executive order for the abortion part of the bill and Make Stupak look like the dumbass that he is. If O'Dumbass gets impeached Pelosi and Reid should not too far behind him. Maybe the three of them can get impeached at the same time.

Four more years baby

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Four more years baby

I would rather move some where else then put up with his incompetency. Im sure your one of the people who thinks O'Dumbass is doing an awesome job as President.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I would rather move some where else then put up with his incompetency. Im sure your one of the people who thinks O'Dumbass is doing an awesome job as President.

Look..I will move from this country when I retire because I hate what people like you have done to it. I respect everything you did in our military, as I respected what my Dad did in 3 years of service in WW2 in Europe.

Do I think he's doing an "awesome" job..no..there are a lot of things I don't agree with. But I save my hatred for those that deserve it..Hitler, Bin Laden, Child Molesters, etc. I will not "hate" a President because I disagree with his policies, let alone choose a stupid name and ridicule him on some horse board. I disliked Bush and thought many things he did tower over anything that Obama has done in terms of harming our country, but nothing would motivate me to forget my objectivity and just hate. You really think an excessive budget and a health care plan you don't like is worth this? This country went to war with Iraq because Bush either lied or was lied to..why don't you rail on the government taking over our lives about that? Get some perspective Jerry...there is an entire country and a much bigger World that will keep spinning and functioning no matter how big a bunker you dig and how many nifty nicknames you can find on www.insultourpresidentidontlike.com

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Look..I will move from this country when I retire because I hate what people like you have done to it. I respect everything you did in our military, as I respected what my Dad did in 3 years of service in WW2 in Europe.

Do I think he's doing an "awesome" job..no..there are a lot of things I don't agree with. But I save my hatred for those that deserve it..Hitler, Bin Laden, Child Molesters, etc. I will not "hate" a President because I disagree with his policies, let alone choose a stupid name and ridicule him on some horse board. I disliked Bush and thought many things he did tower over anything that Obama has done in terms of harming our country, but nothing would motivate me to forget my objectivity and just hate. You really think an excessive budget and a health care plan you don't like is worth this? This country went to war with Iraq because Bush either lied or was lied to..why don't you rail on the government taking over our lives about that? Get some perspective Jerry...there is an entire country and a much bigger World that will keep spinning and functioning no matter how big a bunker you dig and how many nifty nicknames you can find on www.insultourpresidentidontlike.com

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Look..I will move from this country when I retire because I hate what people like you have done to it. I respect everything you did in our military, as I respected what my Dad did in 3 years of service in WW2 in Europe.

Do I think he's doing an "awesome" job..no..there are a lot of things I don't agree with. But I save my hatred for those that deserve it..Hitler, Bin Laden, Child Molesters, etc. I will not "hate" a President because I disagree with his policies, let alone choose a stupid name and ridicule him on some horse board. I disliked Bush and thought many things he did tower over anything that Obama has done in terms of harming our country, but nothing would motivate me to forget my objectivity and just hate. You really think an excessive budget and a health care plan you don't like is worth this? This country went to war with Iraq because Bush either lied or was lied to..why don't you rail on the government taking over our lives about that? Get some perspective Jerry...there is an entire country and a much bigger World that will keep spinning and functioning no matter how big a bunker you dig and how many nifty nicknames you can find on www.insultourpresidentidontlike.com

good stuff Bob.. we may disagree on a lot of policies but this post was spot on.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Look..I will move from this country when I retire because I hate what people like you have done to it. I respect everything you did in our military, as I respected what my Dad did in 3 years of service in WW2 in Europe.

Do I think he's doing an "awesome" job..no..there are a lot of things I don't agree with. But I save my hatred for those that deserve it..Hitler, Bin Laden, Child Molesters, etc. I will not "hate" a President because I disagree with his policies, let alone choose a stupid name and ridicule him on some horse board. I disliked Bush and thought many things he did tower over anything that Obama has done in terms of harming our country, but nothing would motivate me to forget my objectivity and just hate. You really think an excessive budget and a health care plan you don't like is worth this? This country went to war with Iraq because Bush either lied or was lied to..why don't you rail on the government taking over our lives about that? Get some perspective Jerry...there is an entire country and a much bigger World that will keep spinning and functioning no matter how big a bunker you dig and how many nifty nicknames you can find on www.insultourpresidentidontlike.com

Im still waiting on these so called weapons of mass destruction to be found. Was this not one of the reasons why Bush invaded Iraq? It is my hope that this great country of ours wakes up and starts getting rid of the trash that we have as elected officials. Going against the will of the American people is a big no-no in my book. Im going to laugh when the abortion amendment gets forgotten about.

Here are three reasons why I am against this health care bill:

1. Taxpayers should not have to pay for a lady to have an abortion unless it is medically necessary

2. If a person is able to work but doesnt want to get up off thier worthless ass to look for a job why should they get a free ride.

3. Are the people who are illegally here going to get this insurance. They dont pay taxes they dont deserve it. The only thing the deserve is a one way ticket out of this country. Im sure they would try to illegally enter the country again. If they do that put them in a jail cell.

Not every politician is perfect, this appleis to Republicans, Independent, and Democrats. When was the last time a political party went against the will of the American public? Shouldnt our President be more worried about the economy and the unemployment. Is this health reform bill going to create more jobs and help out our economy. More than likely our economy will go more into debt. The Democratic party will be feeling the wrath of the American public comes this November. This bill barely passed, whats going to happen when these Democrats gets voted out of office. I know when I vote in November all I have to hit is one button.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Im still waiting on these so called weapons of mass destruction to be found. Was this not one of the reasons why Bush invaded Iraq? It is my hope that this great country of ours wakes up and starts getting rid of the trash that we have as elected officials. Going against the will of the American people is a big no-no in my book. Im going to laugh when the abortion amendment gets forgotten about.

Here are three reasons why I am against this health care bill:

1. Taxpayers should not have to pay for a lady to have an abortion unless it is medically necessary

2. If a person is able to work but doesnt want to get up off thier worthless ass to look for a job why should they get a free ride.

3. Are the people who are illegally here going to get this insurance. They dont pay taxes they dont deserve it. The only thing the deserve is a one way ticket out of this country. Im sure they would try to illegally enter the country again. If they do that put them in a jail cell.

Not every politician is perfect, this appleis to Republicans, Independent, and Democrats. When was the last time a political party went against the will of the American public? Shouldnt our President be more worried about the economy and the unemployment. Is this health reform bill going to create more jobs and help out our economy. More than likely our economy will go more into debt. The Democratic party will be feeling the wrath of the American public comes this November. This bill barely passed, whats going to happen when these Democrats gets voted out of office. I know when I vote in November all I have to hit is one button.

Everyone has their own reasoning for supporting/not supporting legislation. Your three reasons are what has gotten attention but are really just blips on the radar screen. This is a trillion dollar entitlement that raises taxes, will put the country further in debt, will drive all but the largest insurance comapnies out of business, will decrease the quality of healthcare across the board and further broaden govt intrusion into our lives. They have lied to the public about what is in the bill, they have fudged the numbers, they have bribed their own party members to get it passed and were forced to use tricks like reconcilliation to get this thing passed. All the liberals are taking their victory laps today but in November a lot of them will pay with their heads and as this disastrous bill gets rolling along wiping out an entire industry and taking more of our money out of our pockets it will serve to damage the economy further. And one party is going to be blamed. So if you are a Dem or Lib remember that your happiness today may be a distant memory unless Congress hits it out of the park. And seriously when was the last time they got it right???

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Everyone has their own reasoning for supporting/not supporting legislation. Your three reasons are what has gotten attention but are really just blips on the radar screen. This is a trillion dollar entitlement that raises taxes, will put the country further in debt, will drive all but the largest insurance comapnies out of business, will decrease the quality of healthcare across the board and further broaden govt intrusion into our lives. They have lied to the public about what is in the bill, they have fudged the numbers, they have bribed their own party members to get it passed and were forced to use tricks like reconcilliation to get this thing passed. All the liberals are taking their victory laps today but in November a lot of them will pay with their heads and as this disastrous bill gets rolling along wiping out an entire industry and taking more of our money out of our pockets it will serve to damage the economy further. And one party is going to be blamed. So if you are a Dem or Lib remember that your happiness today may be a distant memory unless Congress hits it out of the park. And seriously when was the last time they got it right???

You hit it right on the money my friend. I dont remember when the last time it was right. Maybe it will get right some time in our lifetime. Im not going to hold my breath though. Im sure the Democrats are taking thier victory lap right now. Come November hopefully it will a lap out of thier office.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

And one party is going to be blamed. So if you are a Dem or Lib remember that your happiness today may be a distant memory unless Congress hits it out of the park. And seriously when was the last time they got it right???

No, it's never gunna be a distant memory. Nothing this hard to achieve is easily forgettable. Let me remind you that Before March 23, 2010, the United States was the only industrialized country that had no universal health care system. We will have a form of universal health care by 2014. It's not extreme. You guys are extreme. If you don't think so, then show me a civilized country that doesn't have some form of national health care. I mean this is the norm.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

2. If a person is able to work but doesnt want to get up off thier worthless ass to look for a job why should they get a free ride.

3. Are the people who are illegally here going to get this insurance. They dont pay taxes they dont deserve it. The only thing the deserve is a one way ticket out of this country. Im sure they would try to illegally enter the country again. If they do that put them in a jail cell.

Not every politician is perfect, this appleis to Republicans, Independent, and Democrats. When was the last time a political party went against the will of the American public?

-Do you really think the only people who are without health care are the worthless people you're describing? Be great if that were true. Tons of self employed people can't afford it. Many people with multiple jobs aren't offered it, and can't afford it.

-You're 100% correct on the illegals (it's one of the few things Conservatives get correct.)

-The American people voted about 53.4% for a guy who said he was going to do even more than this on health care. The will of the people was measured. We had the official poll. Health care was the #1 issue for many people in that election. It was for me. I want a civilized country where people get treated for major diseases before it's too late (even poor people.) Maybe you're right, and people didn't realize what they were voting on. That's called ignorant. What you don't understand is (to most of his voters) this issue was prime. If he loses control of the Congress (in November,) and just holds the ball for 2 years, then it's fine with me. At least he didn't lie about getting this done. Even though he's a liar, brotha actually earned the fiddy I gave him. Bush got his tax break for the rich done. Then, he got into expensive wars. He should of put the money into actually keeping bad people the hell out of here, but he wanted to play cowboys n' indians (that didn't improve most Americans' standard of living.)

[Antitrust32]

^^ I like that writing method SCUDS, its almost like Paragraphs.. keep it up!

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

-Do you really think the only people who are without health care are the worthless people you're describing? Be great if that were true. Tons of self employed people can't afford it. Many people with multiple jobs aren't offered it, and can't afford it.

-You're 100% correct on the illegals (it's one of the few things Conservatives get correct.)

-The American people voted about 53.4% for a guy who said he was going to do even more than this on health care. The will of the people was measured. We had the official poll. Health care was the #1 issue for many people in that election. It was for me. I want a civilized country where people get treated for major diseases before it's too late (even poor people.) Maybe you're right, and people didn't realize what they were voting on. That's called ignorant. What you don't understand is (to most of his voters) this issue was prime. If he loses control of the Congress (in November,) and just holds the ball for 2 years, then it's fine with me. At least he didn't lie about getting this done. Even though he's a liar, brotha actually earned the fiddy I gave him. Bush got his tax break for the rich done. Then, he got into expensive wars. He should of put the money into actually keeping bad people the hell out of here, but he wanted to play cowboys n' indians (that didn't improve most Americans' standard of living.)

i don't know if this is 100 % correct

mccain trailed obama until the republican convention in aug

after picking sarah and after the convention , mccain was ahead in the polls

she pushed him into the lead , a lead he kept until , the middle of sept whne the entir financial world almost melted down. after that they never got back in the lead in the polls , the people blamed the incumbent fot the financial disaster in sept and obama jogged into office from there

if the middle of sept didn't happen until after the election , there was no guarantee that obama would have made it

[Nascar1966]

[quote=SCUDSBROTHER]-Do you really think the only people who are without health care are the worthless people you're describing? Be great if that were true. Tons of self employed people can't afford it. Many people with multiple jobs aren't offered it, and can't afford it.

No I dont. Im sure thier are people who cant get insurance because of preexisting conditions. These people my heart goes out to them.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Bye.

i can't believe that timm is now a comparative voice of reason.

it's like derby trail politics/society is exactly tracking the devolution of conservative thought.

i know i'm an elitist liberal and all but i call out scuds on his ridiculous rants. are conservatives so lock step that they're actually incapable of reining in their most radical spokespeople?

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i can't believe that timm is now a comparative voice of reason.

it's like derby trail politics/society is exactly tracking the devolution of conservative thought.

i know i'm an elitist liberal and all but i call out scuds on his ridiculous rants. are conservatives so lock step that they're actually incapable of reining in their most radical spokespeople?

This might answer that question:

http://www.frumforum.com/waterloo

(It's okay to read, Timm- Frum is a conservative)

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

This might answer that question:

http://www.frumforum.com/waterloo

(It's okay to read, Timm- Frum is a conservative)

I read it with one eye,just in case! For the most part I agreed with Frum...he was fair in his assessments,mostly.

[hi_im_god]

the funny thing is that by the time november rolls around, i doubt this bill is an issue in many districts. some first term dem's from conservative districts may lose their seats because of their vote in favor of this bill. a handful at most.

i don't do political astrology often but it's really a no brainer to say that the economy in september/october will have more to do with the composition of the house in 2011 than anyones vote on this bill.

watch how quickly this disappears as a national issue after the vote.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

the funny thing is that by the time november rolls around, i doubt this bill is an issue in many districts. some first term dem's from conservative districts may lose their seats because of their vote in favor of this bill. a handful at most.

i don't do political astrology often but it's really a no brainer to say that the economy in september/october will have more to do with the composition of the house in 2011 than anyones vote on this bill.

watch how quickly this disappears as a national issue after the vote.

I really do think you are correct. The repubs campaigning on repealing the law wont matter too much.. The general public forgets things VERY quickly. Even major things. It will all boil down to the economy.. which at this point it looks like that Will NOT be a good issue for the Dems!

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Four more years baby

dream on..