HOL trims stakes purses; Rosario's book to Ebanks

Originally Posted by freddymo

3 and 4 (fine jocks) won't be 3 and 4 much longer, but you know that because you recognize they will be running for purses less then second rate curcuits.. Vic the patient is dying, the captain dies in the end as the boat sinks to the bottom

Joel finished 5th overall in North America last year and never once rode a race outside California. If the patient dies I'll be at bedside holding his hand.

[freddymo]

I think they are two very sharp young jocks..They race against swill but that is another issue and doesn't mean they couldn't complete against the best.. ANYHOO they are racing on RUBBER and in a place were purses are in serious decline.. MORE IMPORTANTLY So Cal is a quickly becoming a joke.. Save the gold cup graded races will be at INDUSTRY MANDATED mins.. Realize an overnight stake at MP will be worth 20% more then a G3 at HP..

Vic could be racing for 7 mil a week instead he will race for 2 mil a week...

Originally Posted by freddymo

I think they are two very sharp young jocks..They race against swill but that is another issue and doesn't mean they couldn't complete against the best.. ANYHOO they are racing on RUBBER and in a place were purses are in serious decline.. MORE IMPORTANTLY So Cal is a quickly becoming a joke.. Save the gold cup graded races will be at INDUSTRY MANDATED mins.. Realize an overnight stake at MP will be worth 20% more then a G3 at HP..

Vic could be racing for 7 mil a week instead he will race for 2 mil a week...

Garrett Gomez

Rafael Bejarano

Joe Talamo

Victor Espinoza

Mike Smith

Tyler Baze

Swill?

You're an idiot!!

Hopefully they can continue to "complete" at a high level.

[westcoastinvader]

Vic, kudos for taking most of the good natured and some not good natured barbs with class.

I've been a Martin Garcia fan since really before his "beginning." I think Derby Cat and I both touted some Joel Rosario when he was first appearing in the Bay Area.

I live in California now, and have for 10 years. But I cut my teeth following low to mid ranks midwest racing as a kid and then was a regular attendee at Gulfstream and Hialeah in the 1970's heyday.

I've been to multiple Kentucky Derby's, Woody Stephens numbers of Belmont's and one Preakness. Saratoga twice, and Del Mar once.

Toss in a Prairie Meadows, the requisite Beulah, some Sunland, Emerald Downs, Shakopee and Arlington Park and more, and I've been (about) everywhere (man).

I'm very happy that you share your thoughts and experiences posting here, and happy to occasionally get to follow and enjoy your work in Southern California.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

Vic, kudos for taking most of the good natured and some not good natured barbs with class.

I've been a Martin Garcia fan since really before his "beginning." I think Derby Cat and I both touted some Joel Rosario when he was first appearing in the Bay Area.

I live in California now, and have for 10 years. But I cut my teeth following low to mid ranks midwest racing as a kid and then was a regular attendee at Gulfstream and Hialeah in the 1970's heyday.

I've been to multiple Kentucky Derby's, Woody Stephens numbers of Belmont's and one Preakness. Saratoga twice, and Del Mar once.

Toss in a Prairie Meadows, the requisite Beulah, some Sunland, Emerald Downs, Shakopee and Arlington Park and more, and I've been (about) everywhere (man).

I'm very happy that you share your thoughts and experiences posting here, and happy to occasionally get to follow and enjoy your work in Southern California.

You gonna tell him what you want for Christmas, too?

[westcoastinvader]

I like the calendar from Santa Anita already graciously bequeathed by others here during the holiday season. Thanks for thinking of my holiday list, just the same.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Garrett Gomez

Rafael Bejarano

Joe Talamo

Victor Espinoza

Mike Smith

Tyler Baze

Swill?

You're an idiot!!

Hopefully they can continue to "complete" at a high level.

Please tell me you only put Victor Espinoza on here because you have have letters in your first name in common. I can't and won't argue with the others but seriously, your two jocks are gonna put that dude out of business. He is horrendous.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by Scav

Please tell me you only put Victor Espinoza on here because you have have letters in your first name in common. I can't and won't argue with the others but seriously, your two jocks are gonna put that dude out of business. He is horrendous.

You better hope Drugs doesn't read that one. He's got some Espinoza stats that might make you change your mind.

[Gaining Ground]

rumor on the del mar message board and pace advantage message board that ronnie ebanks is now joel rosarios agent. can anyone confirm this?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

rumor on the del mar message board and pace advantage message board that ronnie ebanks is now joel rosarios agent. can anyone confirm this?

Oh HERE WE GO!!

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

rumor on the del mar message board and pace advantage message board that ronnie ebanks is now joel rosarios agent. can anyone confirm this?

Trouble in paradise ?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Joel finished 5th overall in North America last year and never once rode a race outside California. If the patient dies I'll be at bedside holding his hand.

BTW Vic riding in the Derby. Preakness, and Belmont doesnt suck...Hopefully we get to see Joel on dirt at CD in the fall.. Does he except mounts when the temp is under 60?

Originally Posted by freddymo

BTW Vic riding in the Derby. Preakness, and Belmont doesnt suck...Hopefully we get to see Joel on dirt at CD in the fall.. Does he except mounts when the temp is under 60?

Of course we are still weeks, works and races away. Joel does have what I feel are legitimate Oaks and Derby prospects in Crisp and Dave in Dixie. We'll see what the future holds.

Thanks for asking.

No thanks for the sarcasm.

Thanks for listening.