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Old 03-02-2010, 12:07 AM
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Whatever dude , if it was dirt we still wouldnt be training on it , but we would have that sealed racetrack to look forward to running on . Everyone seems to forget why they put the the surface in in the first place , its because horses were dying at an alarming rate. Were you here when the freaking horse ambulance was hauling horses off more than once a week to be put down? No you werent and you didnt see horses legs just hanging on by skin and you didnt see riders going down and being lucky to just break a bone. So yeah it isnt perfect or maybe not even close but it is better than what we had , its better than horses dying every week and that is just in the mornings.

How come so many California trainers want a return to dirt if there was such carnage in the past?
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:32 AM
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How come so many California trainers want a return to dirt if there was such carnage in the past?

Hell if I know ......uhm they dont care would be my first guess, but its just a guess.
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:35 AM
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Hell if I know ......uhm they dont care would be my first guess, but its just a guess.

That's quite a condemnation of the California training community.
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Old 03-02-2010, 03:18 AM
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How come so many California trainers want a return to dirt if there was such carnage in the past?
I think trainers are hopeful that a quality, brand new dirt track would be safe.
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:58 AM
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I think trainers are hopeful that a quality, brand new dirt track would be safe.
Hope is not a very good business plan.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:04 AM
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My guess is that Frank is positioning himself to cash in on the land that the track sits on.

Looks like Frank sells in 5 years and retires to his breeding and racing stable on a small scale.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:46 AM
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My guess is that Frank is positioning himself to cash in on the land that the track sits on.

Looks like Frank sells in 5 years and retires to his breeding and racing stable on a small scale.
You actually think Stronach needs the potential revenue from the sale of Santa Anita to 'retire'?
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:53 AM
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You actually think Stronach needs the potential revenue from the sale of Santa Anita to 'retire'?
not unless bernie m got ahold of him..

steve why would he not..change it ....in hopes of future bc,s
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:26 AM
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not unless bernie m got ahold of him..

steve why would he not..change it ....in hopes of future bc,s
they dont need to change it for the BC... obviously. look where they ran it the past two years.
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You actually think Stronach needs the potential revenue from the sale of Santa Anita to 'retire'?
Rich people never "need" more money.

That fact fact rarely deters them from seeking it, however.
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Old 03-02-2010, 11:15 AM
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You actually think Stronach needs the potential revenue from the sale of Santa Anita to 'retire'?
Is Frank a Canuck if so there Social Security scale pales in comparsion to the States. I figure frank would be entitled to max benefit of like 1900 a month if he was a US citizen. Poor guy
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You actually think Stronach needs the potential revenue from the sale of Santa Anita to 'retire'?
Doesnt really matter what I think, but maybe.
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:18 AM
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Doesnt really matter what I think, but maybe.
Frank Stronach's rather enormous personal fortune is unencumbered by the MEC situation.
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Hope is not a very good business plan.
why not, it's such a success in politics!!
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:30 AM
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There's that old saying:

If it's not broke, then don't fix it.

But the corollary is also true:

IF IT'S BROKE, FIX THE F**KING THING!

It's broke, Frank.

(Yeah, I know...so is he).
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Old 03-03-2010, 02:33 AM
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Hope is not a very good business plan.
Any type of new track is a better business plan than a track that closes every time it rains.

I personally would prefer a dirt track. I agree with Honu that the old dirt tracks here were terrible but I think a brand new dirt track would be just as safe as a brand new synthetic track.
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How come so many California trainers want a return to dirt if there was such carnage in the past?
they ran out of excuses why the horses they train dont run fast.they need dirt.
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