Public Option

[Riot]

then she should have bought health insurance. You dont HAVE to have a job to have insurance.. you can buy plans on your own.

But the problem is, those plans for individuals are more expensive than any other plan, and often are not affordable.

People are shocked when they leave a job, and COBRA allows them to continue to carry their insurance for a designated time and pay for it themselves - few realize how expensive it is.

I challenge you to do something. You're "young and healthy" pretty much, right? (may have a thing or two, or not ... ) This next week, call the three insurance companies here in KY, and get rate quotes for decent individual health insurance for yourself. Post the rate quotes to this list. Just go price it out, and honestly let us know if you could afford to pay it, or not.

[Antitrust32]

you're out of your freaking mind. 76% of dems 60% if independance and less than 50% of republicans (more like maybe 30% of republicans IF THAT) equals "almost" 80%

maybe "almost" 50%. and even that I disagree with.

I dont want to debate health care with you miss "your mind is 80% gone"

[Riot]

you're out of your freaking mind.

You don't know how to use the interwebs and google "public option poll" ??

I dont want to debate health care with you miss "your mind is 80% gone"

I don't want to debate health care with someone too lazy to look up some poll numbers, and whose intellectual ontributions seems to center on calling other people names and being rude.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

But the problem is, those plans for individuals are more expensive than any other plan, and often are not affordable.

People are shocked when they leave a job, and COBRA allows them to continue to carry their insurance for a designated time and pay for it themselves - few realize how expensive it is.

I challenge you to do something. You're "young and healthy" pretty much, right? (may have a thing or two, or not ... ) This next week, call the three insurance companies here in KY, and get rate quotes for decent individual health insurance for yourself. Post the rate quotes to this list. Just go price it out, and honestly let us know if you could afford to pay it, or not.

Quotes based on 46yr old male non-smoker. PPO $63 a month and up (Lexington KY area) NEXT!!!

https://www.ehealthinsurance.com/ehi...1A47E6.prfo13b

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Quotes based on 46yr old male non-smoker. PPO $63 a month and up (Lexington KY area) NEXT!!!

https://www.ehealthinsurance.com/ehi...1A47E6.prfo13b

I know right.. If you want a "cadallac" plan of course its going to be outrageous. I get faxes all the time for a decent health care plan for like 70 bucks a month that includes scrips.

And I'm not a healthy young person either. I probably have more issues than most of you old people!

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I know right.. If you want a "cadallac" plan of course its going to be outrageous. I get faxes all the time for a decent health care plan for like 70 bucks a month that includes scrips.

And I'm not a healthy young person either. I probably have more issues than most of you old people!

Issues or health problems?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Issues or health problems?

everyone has issues (maybe I have more than the norm ).. I have more health problems than most people in this country at any age. Should have been dead 5 times already. Thank god for modern medicine and the best doctors in the world (all here in the USA!)

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I know right.. If you want a "cadallac" plan of course its going to be outrageous. I get faxes all the time for a decent health care plan for like 70 bucks a month that includes scrips.

And I'm not a healthy young person either. I probably have more issues than most of you old people!

So you refuse the challenge of getting healthcare quotes for yourself? Faxed ads are proof of nothing.

Do you have health insurance through work? If so, call that provider, and see how much it would cost you to continue that plan on your own if you quit work - and not under Cobra, but as an individual.

And if you don't have a plan through work, I challenge you to call Humana and Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield (what we have in KY) and get quotes for yourself, as an individual being insured (no group), with a $2000/year deductable. Get back to us on the costs.

Same goes for you, Dell - if you have insurance at work, call your provider and ask how much the exact same plan will cost you a year as an individual, not under COBRA.

[Riot]

Research 2000 Poll info published today, comparing preference for Senate Plan vs Public Option:

* In Nevada, only 34% support the Senate bill, while 56% support the public option.

* In Illinois, only 37% support the Senate bill, while 68% support the public option.

* In Washington State, only 38% support the Senate bill, while 65% support the public option.

* In Missouri, only 33% support the Senate bill, while 57% support the public option.

* In Virginia, only 36% support the Senate bill, while 61% support the public option.

* In Iowa, only 35% support the Senate bill, while 62% support the public option.

*In Minnesota, only 35% support the Senate bill, while 62% support the public option.

* In Colorado, only 32% support the Senate bill, while 58% support the public option.

[timmgirvan]

Rasmussen 41% for it......56% oppose it!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Rasmussen 41% for it......56% oppose it!

The public option? Or a vote on healthcare? (which has gotten low numbers all last summer and over winter, Dell posted some) - your numbers look like the general "support for healthcare" numbers, not public option numbers.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I get faxes all the time for a decent health care plan for like 70 bucks a month that includes scrips.

Hmmmm....can you send some of those my way, please?

Since I'm paying more than twice that for a plan that covers somewhere between zero and nothing unless I get catastrophically injured, basically.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Hmmmm....can you send some of those my way, please?

Since I'm paying more than twice that for a plan that covers somewhere between zero and nothing unless I get catastrophically injured, basically.

who knows it could be bullshit insurance with a fraud company.. but they make the plan sound decent in the fax! says covers catasrtophic, doc visits, scripts.. its probably bull.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

who knows it could be bullshit insurance with a fraud company.. but they make the plan sound decent in the fax! says covers catasrtophic, doc visits, scripts.. its probably bull.

Sure, the low rates all sounds great, until you sit down with the agent and start giving your medical history. Then they decide what they will exclude, or include - or what they include now, so when later you make a claim on it, they have a preconceived out plan that can say, "Oh, we goofed up, we should have excluded you for that when you bought the policy, so sorry, so we will exclude that now" (yes, that exactly happened to me)

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Quotes based on 46yr old male non-smoker. PPO $63 a month and up (Lexington KY area) NEXT!!!

https://www.ehealthinsurance.com/ehi...1A47E6.prfo13b

Nonsense. No, Dell, a real quote, for a real person. Quoting an ad doesn't count.