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02-21-2010, 01:52 PM
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If indeed Karelian cost Gio Ponti a neck in momentum, by definition, that's a violation. As measured in "authentic physical space", it certainly would be enough to reverse the order of finish. If I'm viewing this as a steward, what I see is Gio Ponti denied the opportunity to maintain his course to the finish by the foe to his inside who was constantly impeding his forward progress.
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02-21-2010, 02:09 PM
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It was a very flagrent foul that would have had a huge impact on 85 in a 50's performance had his equipment not broke ... and, his equipment probably did break because that very flagrent foul caused Chavez to panic and grab instead of getting dropped to the ground. He didn't actually put Chavez on the ground though ... so no, he shouldn't have been DQ'd. Cohen .. was also not riding for position when he gunned his mount several paths to the inside to bump 85 in a 50 and pin him on the rail. Again, a very flagrent foul that would have seriously hindered 85 in a 50's chances had he not bolted from broken equipment. He didn't actually put Chavez over the fence though - or even cause the horse to bounce off the rail... so no, he shouldn't have been DQ'd. Gio Ponti was as courageous in the stretch run yesterday as he was in his last turf race when he seemingly had the bum Interpatation put away - but Interpatation fought back to win by 2 lengths.
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02-21-2010, 02:40 PM
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Well, we have very different interpretations of the beginning of the Whirlaway...
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02-21-2010, 02:55 PM
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In what way?
If you don't think Chavez was intentionally cut-off by Migliore after breaking a bit slow you're absolutely blind. I hope that isn't what you're talking about. So, I assume you mean that Cohen was just riding for position when he gunned his mount inside, bumped with Chavez, and pinned him near the rail before the turn?
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02-21-2010, 03:23 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVxZd6Pfr1E I thought there was zero chance of them doing anything ... but, the camera angle they kept showing from higher up after that looked worse. On the angle at 4:51 I would have said there was no chance of a take down - at the later angle - I thought there was an 80 percent chance of one.
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02-21-2010, 03:37 PM
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I would've taken him down. I realize there was no contact, but you shouldn't be able to drift over seven paths in deep stretch, win by a nose and stay up.
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