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01-30-2010, 03:23 PM
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"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts 
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01-30-2010, 03:24 PM
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some of it
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01-30-2010, 03:39 PM
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We rarely get to see that in American politics. It would be better for we voters if we did, I think. But Obama owned them. Even the GOP admits, afterwards, it was a huge mistake (politically, in retrospect) to let the cameras roll live. They read off their campaign points right to his face, using their best and brightest (Budget members from House, House leadership, etc). and he owned them. Especially in the end, when he was double-teamed from the audience and the stage, and make them both walk away with their tails between their legs. The guy knows his stuff, and he objectively deserves the big win for this one.
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"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts
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01-30-2010, 04:51 PM
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Didn't catch any of it … but it sure sounds like BO took the pathetic con obstructionists behind the wood shed … again.
Would be great to see him sit down some time and school those two gabby uneducated blowhards (Limbaugh, Hannity) that show up on my radio everyday. lol
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01-30-2010, 05:24 PM
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/
Yes, this has accompanying comment from "the liberal left wing". But I looked on FoxNews page, they don't have a link to it 
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01-30-2010, 06:46 PM
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Yay they debated......but our problems remain. Deeds not words and all that rot. I just wish both sides would quit worrying about sound bites and what side came up with what and move us forward. We're increasingly becoming victims of our two party system
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01-30-2010, 06:59 PM
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The uniqueness of this event was that it wasn't about "sound bites" (the President destroyed any chance the GOP would get any out of this).
It was about truth. It was about moving forward. It was bringing together a two-party system, making each side - yeah, Obama included the Dems - responsible for what they say, and DO, or do not do, in Congress. In public. The GOP Congressional elite stood up and read prepared context, directly to the Prez's face, all the nonsense we've been hearing for the past year - the Prez didn't do this, he didn't listen to them, he didn't read their plans, they have a healthcare plan that will do this, tax cuts, the economy, yak, yak, yak. He destroyed them with the truth and reality. There were 140 of them, and they were free to publically call him out on anything that he said that wasn't true. They couldn't do it. He knew more about their plans and talking points than they did. He pointed out exactly where they were lying to their constituents, where GOP stuff has indeed been adopted in the past year (tax cuts, health care, etc) . He called them out for boxing themselves into a corner politically, making it impossible for them to be bipartisan in the least. The last thing this was, was another tepid "political talking points political" redeux.
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"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts
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02-01-2010, 08:59 AM
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 Exactly, actions speak louder than words. Everyone knows that Obama is the best with words.. but the actions, or inactions are what actually matters, and so far Obama has shown he's not much, other than more of Bush on steriods.
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01-30-2010, 06:58 PM
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What came through clearly is that Oba respects their concerns, but often doesn't agree with their solutions. Then, you see the Republicans standing up, and making attacks on him (which he mainly showed to be incorrect.) He explained the economic theory involved with the stimulus plan. Only 1 person said they respected the view. I think he comes across as willing to try anything that has a good chance of actually working for the country. They certainly didn't seem to be the same way.
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