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Old 01-19-2010, 03:08 PM
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Yes we do have a playoff in horse racing. You qualify for the Breeder's Cup by winning the "Win and Your In Route," or by garnering points in BC eligible races or by special invite. So you do have a playoff style system in horse racing. It all points towards the Championship Breeder's Cup Weekend. If that weekend means squat, then the whole program through the year is a sham. The whole concept of the Breeder's Cup is then useless. So why then have BC races during the season? If the end game is meaningless, then the lead up to it is also meaningless. I can understand, if a horse gets injured, but still then, do you give the MVP in baseball to a player that ends his season in July/August because he was going to be on pace for a season of all seasons? Or does it go to the guy that played to the end and put his team over the top? So before the BC, it was the toughest field that Zenyatta was going to face. So when she disposes them like they were standing still, the outcome is meaningless. You can't have both ways.
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:11 PM
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This sounds like a fellow who would also strongly advocate against a college football playoff.
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:19 PM
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Yes we do have a playoff in horse racing. You qualify for the Breeder's Cup by winning the "Win and Your In Route," or by garnering points in BC eligible races or by special invite. So you do have a playoff style system in horse racing. It all points towards the Championship Breeder's Cup Weekend. If that weekend means squat, then the whole program through the year is a sham. The whole concept of the Breeder's Cup is then useless. So why then have BC races during the season? If the end game is meaningless, then the lead up to it is also meaningless. I can understand, if a horse gets injured, but still then, do you give the MVP in baseball to a player that ends his season in July/August because he was going to be on pace for a season of all seasons? Or does it go to the guy that played to the end and put his team over the top? So before the BC, it was the toughest field that Zenyatta was going to face. So when she disposes them like they were standing still, the outcome is meaningless. You can't have both ways.
No one said it as "meaningless". It just wasn't meaningful enough.

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Old 01-19-2010, 03:20 PM
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It all points towards the Championship Breeder's Cup Weekend. If that weekend means squat, then the whole program through the year is a sham. The whole concept of the Breeder's Cup is then useless. So why then have BC races during the season?
Good question.
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:27 PM
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The problem with the above argument is that there really isn't an actual "offseason" in horse racing. It's not like every single horse is on the exact same schedule and is compelled to run 16 or 82 or 162 times per year or whatever.
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:46 PM
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Funny thing is … if RA actually had to line up against a legit good 3yo last year … like, say, a Bernardini ... or even an Any Given Saturday … we're not even having this discussion … Z wins HotY in a unanimous vote.
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:54 PM
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Funny thing is … if RA actually had to line up against a legit good 3yo last year … like, say, a Bernardini ... or even an Any Given Saturday … we're not even having this discussion … Z wins HotY in a unanimous vote.
rachel alexandra would have no problem with any given saturday
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:57 PM
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Of course, if Zenyatta lines up against a killer like Inside Information, Ghostzapper, and probably even the aforementioned Bernardini, we are not having this discussion as well.

Unless you meant to say that RA would have beaten those horses and then even the most stubborn people would have to admit she did more than Zenyatta.

In that case, I would agree with you.
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Citation would have drummed Rachel Alexandra. No way she deserved horse of the year.
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Funny thing is … if RA actually had to line up against a legit good 3yo last year … like, say, a Bernardini ... or even an Any Given Saturday … we're not even having this discussion … Z wins HotY in a unanimous vote.
Since we are visiting the mythical land of IF. If the Classic had been held on dirt, and Z had to face Roses In May and Flower Alley, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. RA would have won HOY by a greater margin.
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