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Old 01-16-2010, 09:48 PM
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I have officially heard everything - on another forum someone said Zenyatta, not Holy Bull is the best horse Smith ever rode.
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Old 01-16-2010, 09:52 PM
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I have officially heard everything - on another forum someone said Zenyatta, not Holy Bull is the best horse Smith ever rode.
That segment of the fan base is called Zentardas
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Old 01-16-2010, 09:53 PM
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That segment of the fan base is called Zentardas
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Old 01-16-2010, 10:08 PM
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I'd say Cigar is the best horse Mike Smith has ever ridden
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Old 01-16-2010, 10:11 PM
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Well, I'd say Skip Away probably was.
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Old 01-16-2010, 10:19 PM
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Well, I'd say Skip Away probably was.

Why wasn't Bailey on him for that race?
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Old 01-16-2010, 10:33 PM
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He made a commitment to ride Behrens earlier in the year and couldn't get out of it.

Skip Away beat Cigar as a 3yo in the Jockey Club Gold Cup and passed on the BC a few weeks later because he wasn't nomiated. I believe the thinking was that Sonny Hine would again refuse to put up a fortune to supplament and make Skip Away elidigible to run ... but when the mighty Formal Gold and many others started falling ... Skip Away was like the last survivor from an insanely awesome group of older males.

If not for a lot of key injuries ... I don't think Skip Away would have run in the Classic as a 4yo either. Going on memory though
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Old 01-16-2010, 11:19 PM
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That segment of the fan base is called Zentardas
What do you call the subgroup of Zentardas who blow kisses at her when she walks onto the track?
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Old 01-16-2010, 10:39 PM
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I have officially heard everything - on another forum someone said Zenyatta, not Holy Bull is the best horse Smith ever rode.
And in other big Zenyatta is the greatest thing ever related news ...

Brent E Bartram has said that Zenyatta's dam Vertigineux is the best broodmare he's ever ridden.

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Old 01-16-2010, 10:46 PM
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I have officially heard everything - on another forum someone said Zenyatta, not Holy Bull is the best horse Smith ever rode.
A comment like that tells me you haven't heard much ...It is pretty minor in the grand scheme of worldly things ....

BTW, if this turns out to be true, may I serve it to you raw, or would you prefer it inserted under your pre-paid hat ???

Either way works well for me ...

Is there another forum you can go to to " tell " on this ?????
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Old 01-16-2010, 10:52 PM
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Imagine if Inside Information or Azeri hooked Zenyatta on a dirt track?

However, the great slayer of Anaabaa's Creation, Briecat, Lethal Heat, and the horse who Interpretation beat a few weeks earlier .. is no doubt the best synthetic horse Smith has ever ridden.
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Old 01-16-2010, 10:58 PM
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As long as we are all being so creative and using our imaginations, just image if Jackson actually ran Rachel on synthetic and Anabaa's Creation beat HER ????

The imaginary laugh of the year--along with the crap posted by the Rachelistas ...

Carry on--dies laughing ...
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Old 01-16-2010, 11:12 PM
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As long as we are all being so creative and using our imaginations, just image if Jackson actually ran Rachel on synthetic and Anabaa's Creation beat HER ????

The imaginary laugh of the year--along with the crap posted by the Rachelistas ...

Carry on--dies laughing ...
Rachel Alexandra probably would lose to mediocre allowance horses like that on synthetic.

Why would that be funny? Have you looked at Asmussen's record on synthetic tracks?

I guess I'm a 'Zenyattaistas' because I got mocked on this forum for saying that she was better than Nashoba's Key? And I do believe I was the only one (at that time) who posted saying that she was better than Nashoba's Key.
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Old 01-16-2010, 11:22 PM
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Rachel Alexandra probably would lose to mediocre allowance horses like that on synthetic.

Why would that be funny? Have you looked at Asmussen's record on synthetic tracks?

I guess I'm a 'Zenyattaistas' because I got mocked on this forum for saying that she was better than Nashoba's Key? And I do believe I was the only one (at that time) who posted saying that she was better than Nashoba's Key.

Anabaa's Creation is cited as " junk " that Zenyatta barely beat, while the better horses she did beat don't get mentioned ...

I never said it would be funny if she beat Rachel on synthetic--rather it would be ironic--as she is the gold standard for some that knock Z ...

I have no idea what you mean about Asmussen's synthetic record--does HE run on it ??? Rachel's is perfect so far ...

I realize this is a subtle analogy ...Perhaps it would be really funny and make more sense if I had said what if Anabaa's Creation beat Rachel on dirt---is that more obvious for your funny bone or mine ????

The second paragraph I can not respond to because it needs some kind of translation ...
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Old 01-16-2010, 11:35 PM
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The second paragraph I can not respond to because it needs some kind of translation ...
What about it needs translation?

There was a female horse in California named Nashoba's Key. She was an undefeated Multiple Grade 1 winner on synthetic tracks. She had a bunch of rabid fans. I posted that the far less established Zenyatta was better than her. I was mocked for it and I don't think anyone agreed with it.

But hey, from that to 'Zenyatta hater' ?
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Old 01-16-2010, 11:16 PM
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As long as we are all being so creative and using our imaginations, just image if Jackson actually ran Rachel on synthetic and Anabaa's Creation beat HER ????

The imaginary laugh of the year--along with the crap posted by the Rachelistas ...

Carry on--dies laughing ...
how come you ignored philcskis post? you were pretty sure they never said zenyatta was retired, but its all right there.
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Old 01-16-2010, 11:22 PM
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I think this is all a ploy. Wait and see, Zenyatta and Favre will show up in a commercial together.
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Old 01-17-2010, 07:41 AM
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I think this is all a ploy. Wait and see, Zenyatta and Favre will show up in a commercial together.
Thanks for that, Pete! One of the few bright spots in an otherwise depressing thread.

I was thrilled to read about the unretirement. Great news for racing. And I really liked reading "We are in the business to have fun" from Jerry Moss. At least one rich owner understands he's got a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity with a special horse, and doesn't choose to shut his horse down in its prime.

That said, I'll still give 2-1 that there will never be a matchup between RA and Zenyatta. Too many things can go wrong.

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Old 01-16-2010, 11:44 PM
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how come you ignored philcskis post? you were pretty sure they never said zenyatta was retired, but its all right there.

I stand by it ...
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Old 01-16-2010, 11:05 PM
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However, the great slayer of Anaabaa's Creation, Briecat, Lethal Heat, and the horse who Interpretation beat a few weeks earlier .. is no doubt the best synthetic horse Smith has ever ridden.
That would be something to see. Especially since Zenyatta is a stone closer and her being hooked by anyone, with her style. would be intriguing, to say the least. Would Inside Information or Azeri be coming from the bathroom stalls at the track? They'd have to be further back than Zenyatta to have any chance of "hooking" her.
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