Vikings Love in Vegas

gales0678 · #1 12-20-2009, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Maybe it's just Sunday Night Football but Minnesota looks almost as bad tonight as they did two weeks ago against Arizona. This isn't even a marginally good team tonight that's man-handling them.

NT

the OL looks horrible thus favre can't do jack and AP ain't running either

the defense was never an issue with this team , jake the sanke was burying them early in the year , not so much now

dalakhani · #2 12-21-2009, 12:50 AM

Carolina is a very capable team that put it together tonight. Its the NFL...it happens. When its this late in the season, winning has as much to do with soundness as it does talent.

The NFC is ridiculous. How can one have faith in any team? I still like this Minny team better than the rest of the contenders.

In the AFC, the chargers are rolling and looking like the class. However, there is no way a Norv turner coached team makes it to the superbowl.

herkhorse · #3 12-21-2009, 05:43 AM

Farve is going to be plenty sore today, probably having Julius Peppers nightmares right about now.

Antitrust32 · #4 12-21-2009, 08:35 AM

Damn! Minny lost to Carolina!?!?! Minny is sure heading in the right direction right now

gales0678 · #5 12-21-2009, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

Carolina is a very capable team that put it together tonight. Its the NFL...it happens. When its this late in the season, winning has as much to do with soundness as it does talent.

The NFC is ridiculous. How can one have faith in any team? I still like this Minny team better than the rest of the contenders.

In the AFC, the chargers are rolling and looking like the class. However, there is no way a Norv turner coached team makes it to the superbowl.

if you're a minny fan what has to concern you is not favre and ap - it's the ol and dl - they have been manhandeled by the cardinals and panthers on the last 2 nfc games

all of a sudden they can't run the ball and they can't stop the run not a winning formula, favre isn't capale of carrying any team on his back he needs the ol to open up the holes and force defenses to put 8 in the box

dalakhani · #6 12-21-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

if you're a minny fan what has to concern you is not favre and ap - it's the ol and dl - they have been manhandeled by the cardinals and panthers on the last 2 nfc games

all of a sudden they can't run the ball and they can't stop the run not a winning formula, favre isn't capale of carrying any team on his back he needs the ol to open up the holes and force defenses to put 8 in the box

Manhandled? Can't stop the run? Did you watch either game? Arizona ran the ball SEVEN TIMES the ENTIRE GAME. Carolina ran the ball at a clip of 3.1 yards per carry. Thats hardly getting manhandled. Even against Zona, Warner averaged 6 yards per pass attempt and that offense is as lethal as any in the NFL.

Both games were on Sunday night where the dog has a history of being extremely dangerous especially at home. Believe it or not, teams lose football games. It happens.

The question is whether or not this is a pattern. Against Cincinatti, the sandwich game, they were extremely effective. Cincy runs better than either Carolina or Zona.

For the record, Im NOT a Viking fan nor do I have any real confidence in them. I think they are a solid squad but if they are beaten by any of the teams currently eligible for the NFC postseason, I would not be shocked. At least, not nearly as shocked as I was watching Dallas beat up the Saints on Saturday.

SniperSB23 · #7 12-21-2009, 03:42 PM

Favre certainly exceeded my expectations this year but the signs of fatigue are starting to show just like last year. They really mismanaged him this year, no way he should have thrown 46 times against San Fran, 50 times against Pittsburgh, 48 times against Chicago (in a game that was 24-7 at the half), or 45 times against Arizona. Those were all mistakes, plain and simple, and they will pay for it down the stretch by having a tired QB. Peterson should have got a few more carries in all those games and Chester Taylor should have got a lot more carries in them.

dalakhani · #8 12-21-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Favre certainly exceeded my expectations this year but the signs of fatigue are starting to show just like last year. They really mismanaged him this year, no way he should have thrown 46 times against San Fran, 50 times against Pittsburgh, 48 times against Chicago (in a game that was 24-7 at the half), or 45 times against Arizona. Those were all mistakes, plain and simple, and they will pay for it down the stretch by having a tired QB. Peterson should have got a few more carries in all those games and Chester Taylor should have got a lot more carries in them.

I agree. Its like they became so in love with this passing game that they forgot about simply pounding it behind that line.

A win next week would do wonders as far as securing the bye and resting the last week.

And seeing as how you are being so gracious, I will concede that despite Sunday's showing, Green Bay's defense looks a lot different than it did at the beginning of the year.

SniperSB23 · #9 12-21-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

I agree. Its like they became so in love with this passing game that they forgot about simply pounding it behind that line.

A win next week would do wonders as far as securing the bye and resting the last week.

And seeing as how you are being so gracious, I will concede that despite Sunday's showing, Green Bay's defense looks a lot different than it did at the beginning of the year.

Dom Capers is a miracle worker. How that defense is #2 in yards allowed is beyond me. My big miss on Green Bay (aside from underestimating Minnesota) was not realizing how bad their offensive line was at protecting Rodgers. Not all of it is their fault though as Rodgers does do a terrible job of getting rid of the ball quickly.