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Old 12-15-2009, 07:42 AM
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yea, tiger woods all of the sudden started driving the ball so much further than when he was younger

there is nothing in that article to suggest Tiger has done any roids
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:46 AM
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yea, tiger woods all of the sudden started driving the ball so much further than when he was younger

there is nothing in that article to suggest Tiger has done any roids
Puhleeze, he bulked up a ton over the past decade. Why would you put using HGH passed him? I wouldn't put it passed a PBA player.
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:53 AM
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Puhleeze, he bulked up a ton over the past decade. Why would you put using HGH passed him? I wouldn't put it passed a PBA player.

He also grew from a boy into a man the past decade. Why would a golfer use hgh? to make a putt? I guess maybe could have used something to heal faster... which it does say he did the blood spinning thing from that particular docter... but you are right that you cant put it passed him.
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:56 AM
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He also grew from a boy into a man the past decade. Why would a golfer use hgh? to make a putt? I guess maybe could have used something to heal faster... which it does say he did the blood spinning thing from that particular docter... but you are right that you cant put it passed him.
If you told me he was on the grassy noll, I would believe it.
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:29 AM
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He didn't take steroids!! The guy is honest as the line for the whores is long!
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:48 AM
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He didn't take steroids!! The guy is honest as the line for the whores is long!



A standard to live by........Steven Wright said this exact thing about Derek Jeter during his Boston tour stop stand up show. Numerous older men in the audience failed the incontinence test the moment the words left his mouth.......
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Old 12-16-2009, 02:45 AM
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He also grew from a boy into a man the past decade. Why would a golfer use hgh? to make a putt? I guess maybe could have used something to heal faster... which it does say he did the blood spinning thing from that particular docter... but you are right that you cant put it passed him.
I think there are plenty of guys on the PGA Tour that are using stuff to bulk up. Much like in baseball, the stronger you are the further you're going to be able to hit the ball.

When Tiger Woods first came on Tour, he was about 20 years old and he weighed around 160-165 pounds. I think now he weighs around 185-190 pounds. Tom Pernice has been on the Tour for years. He was always in great shape. He was always 5'10 and 150 pounds. Now all of a sudden he is 5'10 and 170 pounds and he doesn't have an ounce of fat on him. I know he works out really hard but I still don't know how it is possible to gain 20 pounds of muscle if you aren't using some type of supplement.

For a short period of time I had a personal trainer who worked with professional athletes. I asked him how much weight I would gain if I started working out really hard every day. He told me I'd probably gain 3-4 pounds.

Much like in baseball, I've seen golfers that have bulked up in a way that seems almost impossible without taking some type of supplement.

Here is another article about this doctor that Tiger has been treated by. This doctor is strongly suspected of providing athletes with performance-enhancing drugs.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091215/D9CJPQJ80.html

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Old 12-16-2009, 04:50 AM
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Here is an interesting article about HGH. The article explains that alot of athletes have switched from steroids to HGH. There is practically no way to get caught using HGH.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...itchell14.html
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Old 12-16-2009, 07:12 AM
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i doubt golfers are using things like this to get bigger, but to quicken healing from injury. tiger had that bum knee, use of PED's would help him get back to work more quickly.
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Old 12-16-2009, 08:29 AM
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He's 33 now... 20-25 pounds in 13 years, I bet 90% of the posters on this thread gained 20 pounds in that amount of time.
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Old 12-16-2009, 08:30 AM
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He's 33 now... 20-25 pounds in 13 years, I bet 90% of the posters on this thread gained 20 pounds in that amount of time.
He gained a lot more than 25 pounds in the last 13 years.
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Old 12-16-2009, 11:44 AM
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He's 33 now... 20-25 pounds in 13 years, I bet 90% of the posters on this thread gained 20 pounds in that amount of time.
I'm sure there are tons of people that gain 20-25 pounds during that period from eating too much. Plenty of people gain 25 pounds of fat. Tiger is all muscle. He's gained 25 pounds of muscle. I don't think there is any poster on this board that gained 25 pounds of muscle during that period.
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Old 12-16-2009, 08:24 AM
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I think there are plenty of guys on the PGA Tour that are using stuff to bulk up. Much like in baseball, the stronger you are the further you're going to be able to hit the ball.

When Tiger Woods first came on Tour, he was about 20 years old and he weighed around 160-165 pounds. I think now he weighs around 185-190 pounds. Tom Pernice has been on the Tour for years. He was always in great shape. He was always 5'10 and 150 pounds. Now all of a sudden he is 5'10 and 170 pounds and he doesn't have an ounce of fat on him. I know he works out really hard but I still don't know how it is possible to gain 20 pounds of muscle if you aren't using some type of supplement.

For a short period of time I had a personal trainer who worked with professional athletes. I asked him how much weight I would gain if I started working out really hard every day. He told me I'd probably gain 3-4 pounds.

Much like in baseball, I've seen golfers that have bulked up in a way that seems almost impossible without taking some type of supplement.

Here is another article about this doctor that Tiger has been treated by. This doctor is strongly suspected of providing athletes with performance-enhancing drugs.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091215/D9CJPQJ80.html
It is possible to bulk up that much, but you also have to have great genes to begin with and be VERY strict with how often you eat and the amount of protein you are getting.
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Old 12-16-2009, 09:52 AM
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It is possible to bulk up that much, but you also have to have great genes to begin with and be VERY strict with how often you eat and the amount of protein you are getting.
Well with all the extra-curricular activities he was involved in there is a good possibility that he had a protein deficit.
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Old 12-16-2009, 01:42 PM
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I think there are plenty of guys on the PGA Tour that are using stuff to bulk up. Much like in baseball, the stronger you are the further you're going to be able to hit the ball.

When Tiger Woods first came on Tour, he was about 20 years old and he weighed around 160-165 pounds. I think now he weighs around 185-190 pounds. Tom Pernice has been on the Tour for years. He was always in great shape. He was always 5'10 and 150 pounds. Now all of a sudden he is 5'10 and 170 pounds and he doesn't have an ounce of fat on him. I know he works out really hard but I still don't know how it is possible to gain 20 pounds of muscle if you aren't using some type of supplement.

For a short period of time I had a personal trainer who worked with professional athletes. I asked him how much weight I would gain if I started working out really hard every day. He told me I'd probably gain 3-4 pounds.

Much like in baseball, I've seen golfers that have bulked up in a way that seems almost impossible without taking some type of supplement.

Here is another article about this doctor that Tiger has been treated by. This doctor is strongly suspected of providing athletes with performance-enhancing drugs.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091215/D9CJPQJ80.html

tiger hit the ball further when he weighed less yrs ago
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:09 PM
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tiger hit the ball further when he weighed less yrs ago
I think he was longer than ever, at least up until his knee injury.

I just looked up his driving distance over the years. Back in 1993, when he was still an amatuer, he played in some PGA Tour events. His average driving distance was 272.3 yards. In 1994, it was 277.3 yards. In 1995, it was 298.5 yards. From 1996 to 2000, he was at 302.8, 294.8, 296.3, 293.1, and 298. In 2005, he was up to 316.1. In 2006, he was at 306.4. In 2007 he was at 302.4.

Some of the added distance could be due to better equipment but I certainly think he has gotten longer over the years up until his knee injury. In 2005 and 2006, he was hitting the ball 30-40 yards longer than he was back in 1994 when he was 19 years old.
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:52 PM
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I think he was longer than ever, at least up until his knee injury.

I just looked up his driving distance over the years. Back in 1993, when he was still an amatuer, he played in some PGA Tour events. His average driving distance was 272.3 yards. In 1994, it was 277.3 yards. In 1995, it was 298.5 yards. From 1996 to 2000, he was at 302.8, 294.8, 296.3, 293.1, and 298. In 2005, he was up to 316.1. In 2006, he was at 306.4. In 2007 he was at 302.4.

Some of the added distance could be due to better equipment but I certainly think he has gotten longer over the years up until his knee injury. In 2005 and 2006, he was hitting the ball 30-40 yards longer than he was back in 1994 when he was 19 years old.
I would expect almost all of the change has to do with better equipment. the balls and the driver head are so different today than even in 1995. I felt so dirty writing that last sentence..

When 55 year old men can drive the ball 20 yards further than they could as 40 year old men something is going on!

Have you looked up the stats on the average drive length per year in the PGA tour during that same period? I havent but would suspect similar rises.
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:29 PM
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I think he was longer than ever, at least up until his knee injury.

I just looked up his driving distance over the years. Back in 1993, when he was still an amatuer, he played in some PGA Tour events. His average driving distance was 272.3 yards. In 1994, it was 277.3 yards. In 1995, it was 298.5 yards. From 1996 to 2000, he was at 302.8, 294.8, 296.3, 293.1, and 298. In 2005, he was up to 316.1. In 2006, he was at 306.4. In 2007 he was at 302.4.

Some of the added distance could be due to better equipment but I certainly think he has gotten longer over the years up until his knee injury. In 2005 and 2006, he was hitting the ball 30-40 yards longer than he was back in 1994 when he was 19 years old.

avg driving distance is irrelavant ----he missess/missed too many fairways for it to be any kind of accurate nummer , when he missess the ball stops in the rough immediatley with no roll , gotta look at fred funk who hits 80% of the fairways to see avg driving distance (also i think it's only done on 1 or 2 holes on each nine and those holes could be 3 woods or 2 irons off the tee for woods)

go back and watch some of the old events from the 90's he was driving the ball over 330 yrds back then when he was straight and his ball landed in the fairway and ran another 35 yrds because of the firm fairways. when he hit it into the rough the ball stops worse than a 2/5 fav does in the stretch at beualh park

i will say equipment has helped me hit the ball at least 25-30 yrds further with the driver ---- antirtust can attest that i'm not on hgh but rather byk's barbecue my waistline has expaneded from 34 to 38 over the last 15 yrs , i a m not as strong as i was in my late 20's , yet i hit the driver 25 yrds further when i hit it in the fairway
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Puhleeze, he bulked up a ton over the past decade. Why would you put using HGH passed him? I wouldn't put it passed a PBA player.
I have long wondered how Woods bulked up so much .
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