Obama excepts his Nobel prize

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by miraja2

That's not how it really is....but whatever, that discussion has been had a thousand times.

On the issue of how far "left" this administration is, I just don't know that it makes sense to label them "far left" given how many politicians and people there are in the country who are way to the left of the administration's actions thus far.
If the current administration is far left, then what do you call Russ Feingold? Or better yet, what will you call the GBbob/brianwspencer 2016 ticket?

Like Ive said many times also, I've lived in 2 countries with Universal Health care and it was EXACTLY like that. Very crappy health care too. But hey we can pretend its so grand.

Bob and BWS are both admited socialist... so thats what you can call left of far left!

I dont think Obama is a Socialist, but he is far left Democrat IMO. He's no blue dog.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Like Ive said many times also, I've lived in 2 countries with Universal Health care and it was EXACTLY like that. Very crappy health care too. But hey we can pretend its so grand.

Bob and BWS are both admited socialist... so thats what you can call left of far left!

I dont think Obama is a Socialist, but he is far left Democrat IMO. He's no blue dog.

if you asked obama, even he probably couldn't tell you whether he's left, far left, or more to the middle. i do know for every left leaning thing he says, he follows it up with a middle move to appeal to voters towards that end of the spectrum.
for example, he says DADT will be gone, that he wants it gone, but then he shows a right leaning bent by actually listening to a general and following his advice. that's certainly not a far left move. imo, he's just trying to stay above water with every segment of voters (after all, even if he's not far enough left, will any leftist NOT vote for him next time 'round?!) so that he can be re-elected.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

if you asked obama, even he probably couldn't tell you whether he's left, far left, or more to the middle. i do know for every left leaning thing he says, he follows it up with a middle move to appeal to voters towards that end of the spectrum.
for example, he says DADT will be gone, that he wants it gone, but then he shows a right leaning bent by actually listening to a general and following his advice. that's certainly not a far left move. imo, he's just trying to stay above water with every segment of voters (after all, even if he's not far enough left, will any leftist NOT vote for him next time 'round?!) so that he can be re-elected.

He probably read Clinton's book.

I thought the majority of Generals feel that DADT should be gone? Waste of good men and women service members who get trained and serve just to be kicked out.

Oh thats right.. gays can only be queers and fa.gots, not good soldiers!!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

He probably read Clinton's book.

I thought the majority of Generals feel that DADT should be gone? Waste of good men and women service members who get trained and serve just to be kicked out.

Oh thats right.. gays can only be queers and fa.gots, not good soldiers!!

you'll probably find folks from one end of the spectrum to the other. but yeah, absolutely it's a waste of time and money to have someone go thru the training, gain experience, and then boot them out because of their private life. interesting thing i found about it all is that the majority of those discharged are women.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you'll probably find folks from one end of the spectrum to the other. but yeah, absolutely it's a waste of time and money to have someone go thru the training, gain experience, and then boot them out because of their private life. interesting thing i found about it all is that the majority of those discharged are women.

dykes like shooting guns! lol

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

if you asked obama, even he probably couldn't tell you whether he's left, far left, or more to the middle. i do know for every left leaning thing he says, he follows it up with a middle move to appeal to voters towards that end of the spectrum.
for example, he says DADT will be gone, that he wants it gone, but then he shows a right leaning bent by actually listening to a general and following his advice. that's certainly not a far left move. imo, he's just trying to stay above water with every segment of voters (after all, even if he's not far enough left, will any leftist NOT vote for him next time 'round?!) so that he can be re-elected.

...a'wishin and a'hopin!