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11-10-2009, 02:54 PM
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Driving a car and driving a penis are alot diffirent , wouldnt you say ? Sometimes you lose control of your car thru no one's fault , can that be said about a penis?
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11-10-2009, 02:56 PM
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I'm pretty sure the penis acts as the driver and the car. I'm sure its easy to lose control and have it be the penis' fault.
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11-10-2009, 02:58 PM
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Well then they need to put a "boot " on the penis so it cant be driven .
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11-11-2009, 10:43 PM
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what do either of you know about a penis and what drives it? Its not like either of you ever wanted to be behind the wheel anyway.  I really don't know how I feel about the issue. I like the right to choose but the idea of whether it should be covered brings us into some very murky waters especially if it is a federally managed program.
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11-10-2009, 02:57 PM
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How about not heeding a doctor's advice to try to avoid becoming diabetic? You either follow directions or you don't. Insurance pays for that? Or no? If I intentionally cut my finger off right now, I could go to the ER and get my insurance to pay for it. Much like intentionally driving a penis, so to speak.
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11-10-2009, 03:05 PM
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Things like diabetes and heart disease and such can be passed on thru gene's but getting knocked up is passed thru the zipper and no I dont think the federal government should pay for it , You who agree should donate your money to the next kill a baby for no good reason except that Im a fu cking selffish nimrod and I have no self control.
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11-10-2009, 04:09 PM
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And you seem awfully selective about what sorts of self-induced things should be covered by insurance. Sure some diabetic people are genetically at risk...and some aren't. I'd submit that you'd need to make that distinction if you don't want to cover perfectly legal elective abortions in this health plan while covering all sorts of other situations people put themselves into. But again, what you won't answer is whether or not you think that pregnant women's prenatal care should be covered by insurance, but not abortion....you get to the same spot the same way, so what gives?
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11-10-2009, 07:11 PM
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This isnt about prenatal care , so no I wont answer your question. This is about the federal government paying for an abortion , you want them to and I dont.
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11-10-2009, 07:21 PM
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So you have a problem with legal medical procedures being covered because you just don't like them? And prenatal care is perfectly relevant to the point, and the reason why you're pretending the two are not related is because it blows a hole open in what you're saying and proves the obvious logic problem presented by your argument, because the same action creates the same situation, but depending on the next choice, you change your mind about what insurance companies should be able to offer. Then again, anti-choicers aren't particularly well-known for being consistent or logical. That being -- you're incredibly concerned about people having sex and getting pregnant and insurance companies being able to pay for it, because it was their fault they went and had sex and got pregnant and don't want the baby. But you're not concerned one bit about people having sex and getting pregnant and insurance companies being able to pay for it because it was their fault they went and had sex and got pregnant and do want the baby? I appreciate your incredible transparency.
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11-10-2009, 08:22 PM
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11-11-2009, 01:28 AM
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I never said they werent legal GB, where in this thread have I ever said that . You know what else is legal , drinking beer , so lets have a government program to pay for beer. 
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11-10-2009, 09:15 PM
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11-10-2009, 05:25 PM
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11-10-2009, 05:29 PM
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Seriously, where in the Constitution does it give the Federal Govt. the right to force someone to buy something? How can they force someone who doesn't want, or can't afford, health insurance to buy it?
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11-10-2009, 05:32 PM
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Add that to the fact that most of these people settled for a drastic pay cut and refused to change their spending habits. ex. Save for emergencies or keep cable. Well I can't go without muh Oprah channel and Lifetime movie of the week! I'll just say f.uck saving money.
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11-10-2009, 05:42 PM
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The country is going bankrupt so they spend more money. If you find yourself in a hole you are supposed to stop digging, not call in a backhoe.
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11-10-2009, 06:21 PM
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you can't force them, which is a problem. because then when the yahoo decides too many other things are more necessary than insurance, and they have to go to the doctor, suddenly it becomes our problem. they want what they decided they couldn't pay for, but someone has to pay for it.
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11-10-2009, 06:53 PM
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People who wind up having abortions are not always running around "being reckless and having unprotected sex," even though that's a convenient way to pretend things are to make that point. The whole thing is that whether it's you, Honu, or whoever else, you guys want to increase the difficulty and cost of getting an abortion, an entirely legal medical procedure, because you see every elective abortion as the result of some tramp choosing to be reckless. I say you cutting off your finger is reckless, but you don't see me trying to write your sawed off finger out of healthcare and making you buy a separate rider in case you f*ck up sometime down the road. I also think having 18, or 20 or however many kids clown car Duggar has is reckless too, but then again, I'm not trying to outlaw it or make it so that the majority of healthcare plans are legally not even able to cover her care in their general plan. Hate abortion and don't want it done? Outlaw it. Until then, it's a legal medical procedure, and this amendment (which thank God, doesn't look like it is going to stay in if today's news is any indication) goes much further than the current laws on the books, and to offer that one elective medical procedure that's the result of sex shouldn't be covered while everything elective should be covered if the people meant to or want to have a baby is total BS.
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11-11-2009, 10:45 PM
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Im glad im switching my insurance to a different one so I dont have to deal with the BS of this health care plan that might be approved. I get to keep private hospitals. The only way an abortion should be approved under this new plan is if it involves a life threatening situation. What is going to be done with an illegal who crosses the border and hatches thier kid across the border? Is the one who was hatched going to be covered under this plan or both? If you ask me neither should be covered. We all know why the illegal mother came across the border to hatch thier kid.
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