not 1 dirt horse

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

I disagree that the results prove nothing. The results prove who is best on a synthetic surface.

oh yeah, you are right. it proves what grass horses love the pro ride. its great how they call the races "classics", "dirt" sprint and "dirt" mile.......lol

[Honu]

Its funny , alot of people blame the synthetic track here in Cali for horses bad performances and trainers not wanting to come and run , but Id love know how many folks on the east coast had compliments for our old dirt track ?
I dont really recall trainers from the east ever saying , "wow that sure is a fine dirt track they have at Santa Anita" or " boy that track at Santa Anita sure is kind ".
Most heard from the east was "the tracks in Cali are like running down the 405 freeway" or "Im not going to run my horse on that pavement they call a racetrack in Cali". Hell even the owner of the place didnt want to race his freak Ghostzapper on it for fear of what it might do to the horse.

There are alot of rumors going around about the track going back to dirt , here's what we get to look forward to: Running on a sealed track when it rains , the backside drying out while the frontside is still a boggy marsh , horses breaking down and dying alot more often and less Euro intrest in running in the World Championships. Sounds great to me.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Honu

Its funny , alot of people blame the synthetic track here in Cali for horses bad performances and trainers not wanting to come and run , but Id love know how many folks on the east coast had compliments for our old dirt track ?
I dont really recall trainers from the east ever saying , "wow that sure is a fine dirt track they have at Santa Anita" or " boy that track at Santa Anita sure is kind ".
Most heard from the east was "the tracks in Cali are like running down the 405 freeway" or "Im not going to run my horse on that pavement they call a racetrack in Cali". Hell even the owner of the place didnt want to race his freak Ghostzapper on it for fear of what it might do to the horse.

There are alot of rumors going around about the track going back to dirt , here's what we get to look forward to: Running on a sealed track when it rains , the backside drying out while the frontside is still a boggy marsh , horses breaking down and dying alot more often and less Euro intrest in running in the World Championships. Sounds great to me.

Respectfully this is nonsense.. If they replace the rubber with a state of the art new dirt formation it certainly would be fine. Imagine if they rebuilt the dirt surface with all the new technology that is currently available? I think IF they hired the right folks and spent the appropiate amount of money SA could have a fantastic brand spanking new dirt track. It COULD be the envy of the world..As for the breakdown and your allegations that dirt kills horses, I strongly suggest you forward some factual evidence because if it is indeed true, dirt tracks should be abolished AT ONCE since nobody wants horses dying.. Unfortunately and I mean that sincerely there doesnt seem to be one single thread of evidence supporting your allegations that rubber is safer.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Respectfully this is nonsense.. If they replace the rubber with a state of the art new dirt formation it certainly would be fine. Imagine if they rebuilt the dirt surface with all the new technology that is currently available? I think IF they hired the right folks and spent the appropiate amount of money SA could have a fantastic brand spanking new dirt track. It COULD be the envy of the world..As for the breakdown and your allegations that dirt kills horses, I strongly suggest you forward some factual evidence because if it is indeed true, dirt tracks should be abolished AT ONCE since nobody wants horses dying.. Unfortunately and I mean that sincerely there doesnt seem to be one single thread of evidence supporting your allegations that rubber is safer.

Id love to know about this " new dirt technology" , can you tell me which tracks have it and maybe where I could find more informaation about it . Where is the racetrack located that last installed the "new dirt technology".

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Honu

Id love to know about this " new dirt technology" , can you tell me which tracks have it and maybe where I could find more informaation about it . Where is the racetrack located that last installed the "new dirt technology".

I think Oaklawn revamped their dirt and its done very well in the horse fatality department.

I kinda think that is what he meant.

[letswastemoney]

I'm convinced horses die just as much on synth tracks

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Honu

Id love to know about this " new dirt technology" , can you tell me which tracks have it and maybe where I could find more informaation about it . Where is the racetrack located that last installed the "new dirt technology".

The technology is better today then it was 30 75 years ago when these tracks were built. More importantly rubber tracks have done zero to make horses sounder and they certainly havent curtailed breakdowns at all.

I am pissed that the rubber hasnt helped the industry i was all for it