Summer Bird to Japan Cup Dirt

[cakes44]

This must be what Kent D. was saving him for at the end of the Classic.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by cakes44

This must be what Kent D. was saving him for at the end of the Classic.

I laughed.

[deltagulf]

he can rest s/b after. lets see what he has left . he aa growing 3 yr old. no baby

I wonder if Steve will hire a co-host for ATR in 2011. Tim Ice will probably be available.

[Danzig]

how many starts on the year? seven or eight? that's not exactly a gruelling campaign.
he can run in the japan cup and then take a nice long break before starting back next year.

[Travis Stone]

I would probably go too... his races have been spaced out, it's not like he tried all three legs of the Crown and it's dirt, his preferred surface.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Danzig

how many starts on the year? seven or eight? that's not exactly a gruelling campaign.
he can run in the japan cup and then take a nice long break before starting back next year.

Let's examine his year, he started his career on only Mar 1 of this year.

Race 2 - Broke his Mdn on Mar 19
Race 3 - Arkansas Derby on Apr 11
Race 4 - Kentucky Derby on May 2
Race 5 - Belmont on June 6
Race 6 - Haskel on Aug 2
Race 7 - Travers on Aug 29
Race 8 - Jockey Gold Cup on Oct 3
Race 9 - BC Classic on Nov 6
Race 10 - Japan Cup on Dec 6?

Not much time to rest for 2010...and these races hardly resemble Peppers Pride's sheet.

[pba1817]

That is 9 starts in 8 months, including 6 G1's and a G2...

That is a career for most horses...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pba1817

That is 9 starts in 8 months, including 6 G1's and a G2...

That is a career for most horses...

a refreshing change for sure from what we've seen in years' past.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by CSC

Let's examine his year, he started his career on only Mar 1 of this year.

Race 2 - Broke his Mdn on Mar 19
Race 3 - Arkansas Derby on Apr 11
Race 4 - Kentucky Derby on May 2
Race 5 - Belmont on June 6
Race 6 - Haskel on Aug 2
Race 7 - Travers on Aug 29
Race 8 - Jockey Gold Cup on Oct 3
Race 9 - BC Classic on Nov 6
Race 10 - Japan Cup on Dec 6?

Not much time to rest for 2010...and these races hardly resemble Peppers Pride's sheet.

i don't see a problem. there's certainly not much early on for next year, i don't see what the rush would be. and i'd imagine they're going to map a campaign backwards from the bc. plenty of time for a break after japan and before his '10 campaign.

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by Danzig

how many starts on the year? seven or eight? that's not exactly a gruelling campaign.
he can run in the japan cup and then take a nice long break before starting back next year.

i agree, plus his first few were learning experiences because he had never raced. another race is no big deal. i would be more worried about the travel and the surface. our horses seem to "flop" over there.

[Gander]

Wouldnt it be something if Summer Bird shipped back to NY and faced Quality Road (again) in the Cigar Mile?

Throw in likely starters Bribon and Vineyard Haven, possibly Kodiak Kowboy too and it would be better than any BC race we just saw. A race for the ages. Race of the year if you will.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Gander

Wouldnt it be something if Summer Bird shipped back to NY and faced Quality Road (again) in the Cigar Mile?

Throw in likely starters Bribon and Vineyard Haven, possibly Kodiak Kowboy too and it would be better than any BC race we just saw. A race for the ages. Race of the year if you will.

I don't like it, a one turn mile doesn't really fit his strengths. I really don't see much in the calendar the rest of the year that is too appealing for him, a gr.2 win in the Clark wouldn't add too much to his resume since he is pretty much assured of the 3 yr old male eclispe already. The Malabu? Not a chance, if anything the Dubai World Cup is the most interesting race down the line, the Foster if they want a longer rest for him, I can see him running well there at CD.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Gander

Wouldnt it be something if Summer Bird shipped back to NY and faced Quality Road (again) in the Cigar Mile?

Throw in likely starters Bribon and Vineyard Haven, possibly Kodiak Kowboy too and it would be better than any BC race we just saw. A race for the ages. Race of the year if you will.

Summer Bird would get absolutely mauled at 8 furlongs against those horses.

NT