Presious Passion - Best Race in Defeat

[Left Bank]

When he was coming back in the stretch,I thought he was gonna win.What a racehorse!!!! Best American grass horse this year,IMO.

[Danzig]

i really enjoyed that race. cloudy's knight is another that i thought looked really good albeit without winning.

[Seattleallstar]

PP showed a ton of heart and guts. Kudos to him, gains my respect and a bunch of other fans. I totally dismissed him as garbage, but what a 2nd place.

[MISTERGEE]

2nd only to Zenyata in performance of cup

[RockHardTen1985]

Courageous Cat ran his EYEBALLS OUT.

[herkhorse]

Been a big fan since the Mac Diarmida at Gulfstream last Feb. that was a race!

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Courageous Cat ran his EYEBALLS OUT.

yup, he was the only speed to even come close to making an impact.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

yup, he was the only speed to even come close to making an impact.

Wasn't he 6 lengths back before the 1/2 mile pole?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

2nd only to Zenyata in performance of cup

i thought Gio Ponti ran lights out and actually ran better than Zenyata

Jerry Bailey was quick to point out right after the race that Mike Smith gave a flawless ride

The same cannot bee said for Ramon's ride

if the horse is a closer why is he not outside of smith? why is he inside getting into traffic trouble and close to the dead rail where there was not 1 winner the whole day.... if smith rides gio ponti and ramon rides zenyatta we have a different winner in my opnion after watching the replays , the wider you were yesterday the better the 7 should never have been inside the 4

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by gales0678

i thought Gio Ponti ran lights out and actually ran better than Zenyata

Jerry Bailey was quick to point out right after the race that Mike Smith gave a flawless ride

The same cannot bee said for Ramon's ride

if the horse is a closer why is he not outside of smith? why is he inside getting into traffic trouble and close to the dead rail where there was not 1 winner the whole day.... if smith rides gio ponti and ramon rides zenyatta we have a different winner in my opnion after watching the replays , the wider you were yesterday the better the 7 should never have been inside the 4

What? Ramon gave Gio Ponti an absolutely perfect ride and his trip was ideal.

NT

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

What? Ramon gave Gio Ponti an absolutely perfect ride and his trip was ideal.

NT

where was the best part of the track ? why wasn't he outside?

[Gander]

Originally Posted by gales0678

i thought Gio Ponti ran lights out and actually ran better than Zenyata

Jerry Bailey was quick to point out right after the race that Mike Smith gave a flawless ride

The same cannot bee said for Ramon's ride

if the horse is a closer why is he not outside of smith? why is he inside getting into traffic trouble and close to the dead rail where there was not 1 winner the whole day.... if smith rides gio ponti and ramon rides zenyatta we have a different winner in my opnion after watching the replays , the wider you were yesterday the better the 7 should never have been inside the 4

LOL. Is this a joke?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Gander

LOL. Is this a joke?

i want you to tell me how many winners were there near or on the rail yesterday and friday?

did ramon not get in traffic trouble and why is he inside of smith?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by gales0678

i thought Gio Ponti ran lights out and actually ran better than Zenyata

Jerry Bailey was quick to point out right after the race that Mike Smith gave a flawless ride

The same cannot bee said for Ramon's ride

if the horse is a closer why is he not outside of smith? why is he inside getting into traffic trouble and close to the dead rail where there was not 1 winner the whole day.... if smith rides gio ponti and ramon rides zenyatta we have a different winner in my opnion after watching the replays , the wider you were yesterday the better the 7 should never have been inside the 4

Furthest Land took relatively the same path(1 off the rail) and won, I thought the inside was fine and a good place to be, it didn't hurt any horse all day Sat nor all day Fri as the Marathon was won by a horse that got up on the rail also. I wouldn't take too much stock at Zenyatta's winning margin, clearly she is a horse that does just what is required to win, as Smith said he didn't even scratch the bottom of her. When QR scratched, she lost a pace prescence that should have hurt her, however in the end it didn't matter one iota. She was much the best yesterday, the figs and numbers are not an accurate measure to her in my opinion, she's a horse that runs to her competition.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by CSC

Furthest Land took relatively the same path(1 off the rail) and won, I thought the inside was fine and a good place to be, it didn't hurt any horse all day Sat nor all day Fri as the Marathon was won by a horse that got up on the rail. I also wouldn't take too much stock at Zenyatta's winning margin, clearly she is a horse that runs to her competition and does just what is required to win, as Smith said he didn't even scratch the bottom of her. When QR scratched, she lost a pace prescence that should have hurt her, however in the end it didn't matter one iota. She was much the best yesterday, the figs and numbers probably don't apply to her all as they might to others.

i guess if you say so

maybe i was watching a different track yesterday and friday but i hardly saw any horses winning on or near the rail

the best part of the track was the outside smith was 8-9 wide , ramon hugged the rail on the far turn then got to the 3 path , then back to the 2 path and finally back to the 3 path , his horse never even saw zen. because he was so far inside of her

[CSC]

He showed great heart and gameness yes, but best race in defeat? No if I had a vote. He actually had a very good trip, ran his race isolated on the lead with no pressure whatsoever, Hartman couldn't have written better pace scenario than this year's BC turf.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by CSC

He showed great heart and gameness yes, but best race in defeat? No if I had a vote. He actually had a very good trip, ran his race isolated on the lead with no pressure whatsoever, Hartman couldn't have written better pace scenario than this year's BC turf.

Oh sure, I mean it's not like going the opening six furlongs in 1:09.24 in a 12 furlong race is taxing or anything.

Did you happen to see that when it looked like Conduit was going to absolutely inhale him PP came back and fought the whole way. It was a TREMENDOUS race in defeat. Far, far better than any other horse who lost during the entire weekend.

NT

[hurricanefrank]

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

2nd only to Zenyata in performance of cup

Did you not see Goldikova's race?