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Travis Stone 11-07-2009 05:05 PM

Presious Passion - Best Race in Defeat
 
I know the turf probably helped him along, but how can you not root for Presious Passion down the stretch? He gave his all... very game, great race...

booner 11-07-2009 05:09 PM

I was rushing here to post the same thing. Very gritty in defeat. Great race.

eajinabi 11-07-2009 05:12 PM

Game try. Conduit's jockey had to work extra hard to run past

Left Bank 11-07-2009 05:28 PM

When he was coming back in the stretch,I thought he was gonna win.What a racehorse!!!! Best American grass horse this year,IMO.

Danzig 11-07-2009 06:28 PM

i really enjoyed that race. cloudy's knight is another that i thought looked really good albeit without winning.

Seattleallstar 11-07-2009 06:34 PM

PP showed a ton of heart and guts. Kudos to him, gains my respect and a bunch of other fans. I totally dismissed him as garbage, but what a 2nd place.

MISTERGEE 11-07-2009 06:54 PM

2nd only to Zenyata in performance of cup

RockHardTen1985 11-07-2009 06:55 PM

Courageous Cat ran his EYEBALLS OUT.

herkhorse 11-07-2009 07:35 PM

Been a big fan since the Mac Diarmida at Gulfstream last Feb. :tro: that was a race!

10 pnt move up 11-07-2009 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Courageous Cat ran his EYEBALLS OUT.

yup, he was the only speed to even come close to making an impact.

RolloTomasi 11-07-2009 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
yup, he was the only speed to even come close to making an impact.

Wasn't he 6 lengths back before the 1/2 mile pole?

RockHardTen1985 11-07-2009 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
Wasn't he 6 lengths back before the 1/2 mile pole?

LOL... He totally tripped out.. But still really improved, Im guess he improved 6-8 points off his career top.

RolloTomasi 11-07-2009 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
LOL... He totally tripped out.. But still really improved, Im guess he improved 6-8 points off his career top.

He definitely ran huge. Should be tough right back in the Hollywood Derby, not to mention next year.

Not sure about his speed figures, but he ran 1:45+ for 9f at Saratoga this summer. With his billion dollar pedigree, I don't think its any surprise he can run quite a bit.

Nonetheless, given his most recent start, he was getting some action early in the betting (around 14-1 early). I realize it drifted up to 22-1 by race time though.

MaTH716 11-07-2009 09:02 PM

I thought that he was going to back up quickly on the turn and end up last. He really showed a ton of guts. Makes you think what would the outcome have been if Elvis tried to control some of that early (LONE) speed in the first 3/4 of a mile. But still a very impressive game performance, by PP.

hockey2315 11-07-2009 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
I thought that he was going to back up quickly on the turn and end up last. He really showed a ton of guts. Makes you think what would the outcome have been if Elvis tried to control some of that early (LONE) speed in the first 3/4 of a mile. But still a very impressive game performance, by PP.

And neutralize his tactical edge?

MaTH716 11-08-2009 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
And neutralize his tactical edge?

I never said that he shouldn't have been on the lead. My only question (and it's kind of a second guess), was what do you think would have happened if Elvis was able to slow him down a hair on the front end. He was a little quick for the first 3/4 (I think he was .22 and change for the 2nd with an 8 length lead). I understand that starting on the hill affected to that time. But considering by how much he lost by, if Elvis was able to keep a little more in the tank maybe he could of held on. Reguardless it was still a tremendous performance.

By the way hock, congrats on your comeback victory. Both you guys did a great job, it was fun to watch.

hockey2315 11-08-2009 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
I never said that he shouldn't have been on the lead. My only question (and it's kind of a second guess), was what do you think would have happened if Elvis was able to slow him down a hair on the front end. He was a little quick for the first 3/4 (I think he was .22 and change for the 2nd with an 8 length lead). I understand that starting on the hill affected to that time. But considering by how much he lost by, if Elvis was able to keep a little more in the tank maybe he could of held on. Reguardless it was still a tremendous performance.

By the way hock, congrats on your comeback victory. Both you guys did a great job, it was fun to watch.

Thanks. . .

In my opinion what makes Presious Passion such a danger (and such a cool horse) is that he can build up a huge lead on horses who are much more talented in the traditional sense (i.e. Conduit). If he were to slow down on the lead he would let horses with a better closing kick catch up.

pba1817 11-08-2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
I know the turf probably helped him along, but how can you not root for Presious Passion down the stretch? He gave his all... very game, great race...

He ran the most impressive race in the BC, IMO...

Bigsmc 11-08-2009 02:11 PM

Anybody remember Buck's Boy?

"A wire to wire tour de force"

http://www.breederscup.com/greatestm...isionname=turf

gales0678 11-08-2009 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MISTERGEE
2nd only to Zenyata in performance of cup

i thought Gio Ponti ran lights out and actually ran better than Zenyata

Jerry Bailey was quick to point out right after the race that Mike Smith gave a flawless ride

The same cannot bee said for Ramon's ride

if the horse is a closer why is he not outside of smith? why is he inside getting into traffic trouble and close to the dead rail where there was not 1 winner the whole day.... if smith rides gio ponti and ramon rides zenyatta we have a different winner in my opnion after watching the replays , the wider you were yesterday the better the 7 should never have been inside the 4


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