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[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Math, you are right about we have noone to replace Lidge.. the only option type stuff. I still would not have put him out there. i'd put like 5 guys out of our bullpen out there besides Lidge.

He was are only option.. but he has such and awful year.. really really bad. 11 blown save, 7.5+ ERA, like 6 losses. Absolutely pathetic and its a statement to the rest of the team even winning the NL east with Lidge doing everything to prevent that.

We had no other option but everyone in Philly knew it was doomsday when he went out there.
No way will I blame Howard. He carried us to the WS. The Lidge thing makes a lot more sense though... to me at least.

Charlie Manuel/Ruben Amaro should shoulder some blame there. There was an obvious issue and they didn't address it. They just hoped that he would recapture his form from last year. But it's very tough to call an audible once you reach the playoffs, you can't be tinkering with things there. They fixed the rotation and basically stole Cliff Lee, maybe Amaro should have traded one more chip and acquire another 8th inning/possible closer type. But with all that being said, the Phiilies din't lose the World Series cause of Brad Lidge.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Charlie Manuel/Ruben Amaro should shoulder some blame there. There was an obvious issue and they didn't address it. They just hoped that he would recapture his form from last year. But it's very tough to call an audible once you reach the playoffs, you can't be tinkering with things there. They fixed the rotation and basically stole Cliff Lee, maybe Amaro should have traded one more chip and acquire another 8th inning/possible closer type. But with all that being said, the Phiilies din't lose the World Series cause of Brad Lidge.

I agree.. see the post after yours.

It was just especially rough on me knowing what was going to occur.

And yes they needed to just give up on Lidge.. I read Philly.com almost every day this season, and there was article after article about just giving up on Lidge.. Charlie always said "he's our closer.. blah blah blah.. maybe he'll get back the mental part.. blah blah blah". Then Charlie actually benched him the last few weeks.. and Madson did equally as poorly in the 9th spot.

Yes the blame is on Charlie and Amaro for this.. they needed to get Sherill when they were getting Cliff (though Scuds may disagree). Like I said, Lidge just performed the same way he had been all year.