Another glorious win for the homo-phobes?

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's not supposed to be majority rule. the will of the people isn't supposed to supercede the constitution. if the majority voted to get rid of the press, do you really think that would happen? so why should civil rights only be permitted to some? it's simple-they're not supposed to be. all are created equal is supposed to mean just that.

Yeah.... but the response from these nutjobs is that there is already equality- any gay person can get married; he or she just has to marry someone of the opposite sex.

I agree with you- the will of the majority should not be used to supersede the rights of a minority, but then I'm not on the side of those who wail about so-called "activist judges." (What does that even mean, besides, "a judge who makes a decision I personally disagree with?")

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Yeah.... but the response from these nutjobs is that there is already equality- any gay person can get married; he or she just has to marry someone of the opposite sex.

I agree with you- the will of the majority should not be used to supersede the rights of a minority, but then I'm not on the side of those who wail about so-called "activist judges." (What does that even mean, besides, "a judge who makes a decision I personally disagree with?")

The right has been crying about "activist judges" since they didn't get their way in Brown v. Board of Education.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by miraja2

The right has been crying about "activist judges" since they didn't get their way in Brown v. Board of Education.

Take a moment, and think about about that "activist" label. They are pretty clever. What they are saying there is that they think their favorite bigot authors got it right. They agree with those White bigots that set up the country. It's no wonder that they want to follow that plan, and make very few changes. Notice that? They paint you a witch for wanting to mess with it. It takes over 50% of the vote for you to keep them from outlawing Gay marriage. How much of the vote did they need to keep Obama from doing what you agree with? Ohhhh!! Noooo. Not 51%. Oh, no. That somehow got to be 41%. They only need 41% to stop him. Now, Brian is frustrated at Oba for not helping his gay supporters. Now, why do you think Oba can't help the young man? O.K., goes back to them only needing 41% to fk with him. Now, who was it that decided that? Oh, it's their favorite authors. See that? Such infallible designers they were. They decided to give all these white trash states the same number of senators as the civilized states (2.) See that? They give Alabama 2 senators, and a much bigger (and more civilized) state also only gets 2 senators. So, Alabama, and Pennsylvania have very different population numbers. If a small population has the same power (in the senate) as a large population, then don't you think you've doubled or tripled the power of the people in that White Trash state of Alabama ?.....Uh, yep. Now you see why they love them folks that wrote this design. Now, once you've done that (given neck people 2 or 3 times the representation in the senate as civilized people,) you then only make the necks get 41% of the senate to fk up Oba. If you do the math on that, Oba is being held hostage by as little as what? 30% of the voters? Just so happens that those 30% don't like Gay Marriage. That's why that brotha is watching Basketball on T.V., instead of looking like he cares whether Gay Marriage is legal in Maine (something he probably is actually all for.) Our system is designed to heavily favor country-time folks. You can elect all the Progressive Brothas you want, but they will always have to overcome the wishes of the 30% trash in this country (they have a built-in advantage.) This trash will always have more say than you. If that's the way it feels, it's because that's the way it is. Believe me, those Tea baggers from Bama, Tennessee etc. have a bigger voice in this than you or myself. It's exactly the opposite of the sht they say. They are way over represented. I think this is one of the reasons minorities think there is so much prejudice at work. Just look how much representation (in the senate) white people in Montana have versus Urban Black voters in the big cities of this country. Who designed that? It was designed by (or certainly for) the Southern States. That's how they got them to join the Union. That's an unfair fkd-up design, and that's why this country will always be held hostage by the same fkn trash (designed that way.) If you don't think so, get a pair of pliers. Find any piece of cheap metal faucet pipe. Pinch it. Does it matter that the rest of the pipe is clear, n' wide? No, the only thing that matters is that it's pinched down at one point. That's Oba's problem (the senate is that pinch where 30% of the voters get to have the same power as the other 70% of the voters.) People are brainwashed to think this is a fair country. It certainly is not, but look who bitches the most on here. It's the 30% who already have the power equal to the other 70%. They should shut the f up, n' thank their lucky stars.

[Danzig]

not all doom and despair...


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1257...hatsNewsSecond

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

not all doom and despair...


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1257...hatsNewsSecond

LOL...If they don't call it marriage, it barely makes it through. You would think a compromise like that would make for at least a 60-40 situation. The fact that it's that close sort of points to the objections being mainly from hatred, and not just a problem with the word "marriage."

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Take a moment, and think about about that "activist" label. They are pretty clever. What they are saying there is that they think their favorite bigot authors got it right. They agree with those White bigots that set up the country. It's no wonder that they want to follow that plan, and make very few changes. Notice that? They paint you a witch for wanting to mess with it. It takes over 50% of the vote for you to keep them from outlawing Gay marriage. How much of the vote did they need to keep Obama from doing what you agree with? Ohhhh!! Noooo. Not 51%. Oh, no. That somehow got to be 41%. They only need 41% to stop him. Now, Brian is frustrated at Oba for not helping his gay supporters. Now, why do you think Oba can't help the young man? O.K., goes back to them only needing 41% to fk with him. Now, who was it that decided that? Oh, it's their favorite authors. See that? Such infallible designers they were. They decided to give all these white trash states the same number of senators as the civilized states (2.) See that? They give Alabama 2 senators, and a much bigger (and more civilized) state also only gets 2 senators. So, Alabama, and Pennsylvania have very different population numbers. If a small population has the same power (in the senate) as a large population, then don't you think you've doubled or tripled the power of the people in that White Trash state of Alabama ?.....Uh, yep. Now you see why they love them folks that wrote this design. Now, once you've done that (given neck people 2 or 3 times the representation in the senate as civilized people,) you then only make the necks get 41% of the senate to fk up Oba. If you do the math on that, Oba is being held hostage by as little as what? 30% of the voters? Just so happens that those 30% don't like Gay Marriage. That's why that brotha is watching Basketball on T.V., instead of looking like he cares whether Gay Marriage is legal in Maine (something he probably is actually all for.) Our system is designed to heavily favor country-time folks. You can elect all the Progressive Brothas you want, but they will always have to overcome the wishes of the 30% trash in this country (they have a built-in advantage.) This trash will always have more say than you. If that's the way it feels, it's because that's the way it is. Believe me, those Tea baggers from Bama, Tennessee etc. have a bigger voice in this than you or myself. It's exactly the opposite of the sht they say. They are way over represented. I think this is one of the reasons minorities think there is so much prejudice at work. Just look how much representation (in the senate) white people in Montana have versus Urban Black voters in the big cities of this country. Who designed that? It was designed by (or certainly for) the Southern States. That's how they got them to join the Union. That's an unfair fkd-up design, and that's why this country will always be held hostage by the same fkn trash (designed that way.) If you don't think so, get a pair of pliers. Find any piece of cheap metal faucet pipe. Pinch it. Does it matter that the rest of the pipe is clear, n' wide? No, the only thing that matters is that it's pinched down at one point. That's Oba's problem (the senate is that pinch where 30% of the voters get to have the same power as the other 70% of the voters.) People are brainwashed to think this is a fair country. It certainly is not, but look who bitches the most on here. It's the 30% who already have the power equal to the other 70%. They should shut the f up, n' thank their lucky stars.

Ever heard of a paragraph?

[letswastemoney]

I can't understand why anyone would want to stop gays from getting married.

If gay marriage was legal.....

What exactly about that changes anyone's life?

So you might as well let them do it if they aren't harming you.

I think gays should be allowed to marry or marriage should be outlawed for everyone. Those are the only 2 fair options.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

I can't understand why anyone would want to stop gays from getting married.

If gay marriage was legal.....

What exactly about that changes anyone's life?

So you might as well let them do it if they aren't harming you.

I think gays should be allowed to marry or marriage should be outlawed for everyone. Those are the only 2 fair options.

exactly!

i read where someone said religion is an excuse to stick your nose in other peoples' business. i thought that was pretty accurate.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Ever heard of a paragraph?

LOL....It's "UNSTRUCTURED WRITING." I just did it for too long a period of time.

"Our first inspirations or impressions are usually the strongest, because they arise before our censor minds have a chance to interfere and make the material safe and sanitized."-Natalie Goldberg

In other words, this is me talking, and no effort to formally write was ever intended.