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Old 11-01-2009, 08:27 PM
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Going into this week:
Harvin had 23 catches for 285 yards (12.4 ypc), and two touchdowns. He had played seven games (three starts) and his yards per game is 40.7. His yards after the catch average is 5.6.

Nicks had 16 catches for 315 yards (19.7 ypc), and four touchdowns. He had played five games (one start) and his yards per game is 63.0. His yards after the catch average is 11.1.

Harvin is a dynamic kick returner, one of the best in the league already. That is what brings him into the conversation. Just off of their receiving numbers thus far, it's not even close to me and Harvin is playing with a much better quarterback. Nicks is third in the NFL in yards per catch (Miles Austin 23.7, DeSean Jackson 20.1) and his yards after the catch is second among all receivers (Austin 12.2). You'd take Harvin and that's fine. I won't tell you that you are wrong. I'll take Nicks because I think he is more productive on the field.
averages are fairly irrelevant with such a small size sample. I just find it impossible to make 16 catches (many in garbage time like the TD against the Saints when they were playing the special teamers on defense) over 5 games into a complete case for anyone.

Harvin is third in the NFL in yards per touch. He also is avg over 5 yards running the ball.
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:43 PM
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averages are fairly irrelevant with such a small size sample. I just find it impossible to make 16 catches (many in garbage time like the TD against the Saints when they were playing the special teamers on defense) over 5 games into a complete case for anyone.

Harvin is third in the NFL in yards per touch. He also is avg over 5 yards running the ball.
I don't go by the averages but you said more catches, yards, and touchdowns so I went by the stats. I thought Nicks was a better receiver before they had accumalated any stats so I don't need them to support me but even if it is a small sample size, it's what we have so far and they make a pretty good support case for any Nicks fans.

I don't think it's fair to use yards per touch when you've got a guy that returns kickoffs. Not many top receivers get the chance to up their averages on kickoff returns and fewer running backs do. Ted Ginn just got 201 yards on two returns today. Really helped his yards per touch average.
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:50 PM
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I bet you would let Nicks fart in your face.
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