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Old 10-05-2009, 01:56 PM
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Really, Chuck?
Freddy says money doesnt matter
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:58 PM
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Freddy says money doesnt matter
It's obvious isn't it? They have nothing to gain and at least a little to lose in the Turf, and a ton to gain and nothing to lose in the Classic.
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:00 PM
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It's obvious isn't it? They have nothing to gain and at least a little to lose in the Turf, and a ton to gain and nothing to lose in the Classic.
They have a lot to lose in any race they run in now. Sounds like the trainer doesnt want to run anyway.
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:02 PM
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They have a lot to lose in any race they run in now. Sounds like the trainer doesnt want to run anyway.
Agreed. He's not coming.
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:15 PM
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When was the last Arc winner to come over for the BC, I seem to remember Pentre Celebre coming over in 91 or something, not sure if there have been many off the top of my head.
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:17 PM
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There's no way he's running again. Why risk it?

I ask the same thing about The Steelers. I mean they won the Super Bowl last year. It's too risky to play this year! Take a break guys! Competition is not good! Oh my vagina!
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:29 PM
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When was the last Arc winner to come over for the BC, I seem to remember Pentre Celebre coming over in 91 or something, not sure if there have been many off the top of my head.
Dylan Thomas! plus i was surprised to hear Tsui say he's 50-50 to go to the BC. I has it at 95% he would be retired after yesterday!
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:41 PM
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I don't think they are coming over either, but with Raven's Pass winning last year on the synthetic that may have opened some eyes. Don't forget, Henry the Navigator, another Euro was second. The $5 million purse is also very tempting.
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Old 10-05-2009, 03:30 PM
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They have a lot to lose in any race they run in now. Sounds like the trainer doesnt want to run anyway.
You think they have a lot to lose by going in the Classic? They have a lot to lose if he's beat on the Turf but on the synthetics there is a built in excuse.
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Old 10-05-2009, 03:47 PM
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I hope Richard's Kid wins the Classic. I'd love to see a really bad Eastern dirt horse win it.
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Old 10-05-2009, 04:19 PM
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You think they have a lot to lose by going in the Classic? They have a lot to lose if he's beat on the Turf but on the synthetics there is a built in excuse.

I hope you bet Kodiak!
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Old 10-05-2009, 04:22 PM
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I hope you bet Kodiak!
I was so uninspired I not only didn't watch racing this weekend, I didn't even check the results until this afternoon. A synthetic BC kills my interest once Toga is done (and I'm even going to the BC).
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Old 10-05-2009, 04:37 PM
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I was so uninspired I not only didn't watch racing this weekend, I didn't even check the results until this afternoon. A synthetic BC kills my interest once Toga is done (and I'm even going to the BC).

Honestly I forgot all those races were even run this weekend until I got to work today. I really wish I was going to Cali with you
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Old 10-05-2009, 05:23 PM
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I was so uninspired I not only didn't watch racing this weekend, I didn't even check the results until this afternoon. A synthetic BC kills my interest once Toga is done (and I'm even going to the BC).
I hope you havent been paying much attention to the Raiders either.
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Old 10-05-2009, 05:22 PM
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You think they have a lot to lose by going in the Classic? They have a lot to lose if he's beat on the Turf but on the synthetics there is a built in excuse.
A loss to end his career regardless of surface will be a sour note to end on. He wouldnt lose the turf unless the jock fell off.
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Old 10-05-2009, 05:49 PM
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A loss to end his career regardless of surface will be a sour note to end on. He wouldnt lose the turf unless the jock fell off.
Arc winners are notoriously great bets in the Turf.
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Old 10-05-2009, 05:52 PM
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Arc winners are notoriously great bets in the Turf.
I keep saying that and getting ignored. This reminds me of all the Dylan Thomas talk from a few years ago.
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Old 10-06-2009, 04:04 AM
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Arc winners are notoriously great bets in the Turf.
Completely statistically irrelevant
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Old 10-06-2009, 09:27 AM
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Arc winners are notoriously great bets in the Turf.
Some may say it's irrelevant but I'm on the side of believing that after seeing a good number of failures, I'm going to need to see it done first. For whatever reasons, none have been able to do it and some of those were good horses, especially Dancing Brave. Why horses that have lost the Arc have been able to come over and win is a mystery to me. Same deal with the QE II and the Mile.
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