Best Breeder's Cup?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I think I actually enjoyed the races top to bottom the best the last time it was at Churchill, what 2006?

I'd vote for that. Other than Invasor it was a great day. Plus we had the benefit of Byk running down to tell us to pound Street Sense as the bias was obvious. Red Rocks was especially nice though was a bit chilly for the FL and Irish human-shippers. Speaking of that Hooves call me!

[jballscalls]

2004 at Lone Star was my fave! as to the best, probably one from before i really watched

[CSC]

Toss up between Woodbine in 96 and CD in 98 for me.

[MISTERGEE]

Maybe because I was there but go with 1989 at Gulfstream. Just to name a few Bayakoa, Go For Wand, and of course Sunday Silence over Easy Goer

[randallscott35]

For the best turf Mile I've ever seen(impressive wise) was this one from 2001.

Belmont Park - October 27th, 2001 - Race 5
Race name: Breeders' Cup Mile
Stakes - For ThoroughbredThree Year Old and UpwardOne Mile On The Turf
Purse: $1,000,000
Value of Race: $1,044,240 1st $592,800, 2nd $228,000, 3rd $136,800, 4th $63,840, 5th $22,800
Weather: Clear Track: Firm
Off at: 2:43Start: Good for all

Pgm HorseName (Jockey) Wgt M/E PP SP 1/4 1/2 3/4 Str Fin Odds
12 Val Royal (FR) (Valdivia, Jr., J.) 126 L 11 11 11-2 1/2 11-2 11-1/2 3-Head 1-1 3/4 5.10
1 Forbidden Apple (Nakatani, C.) 126 L 1 2 4-1/2 4-1/2 2-1 1-1 1/2 2-3/4 8.20
4 Bach (IRE) (Kinane, M.) 126 L 4 6 6-1 6-Head 5-Head 4-1 1/2 3-1 1/2 33.50
13 Irish Prize (Stevens, G.) 126 L 12 10 10-2 1/2 10-1 1/2 9-1/2 5-Head 4-Neck 5.00
2 Navesink (Prado, E.) 123 L 2 7 7-1/2 8-2 8-1/2 7-Head 5-Neck 17.00
10 Brahms (Solis, A.) 126 L b 10 9 9-1 9-1/2 10-1/2 11-Head 6-Neck 12.40
3 Noverre (Dettori, L.) 123 L 3 8 8-2 1/2 7-Head 7-Head 8-1/2 7-1 4.10*
9 Sarafan (Espinoza, V.) 126 L b 9 12 12 12 12 10-1 8-Neck 26.75
6 City Zip (Chavez, J.) 123 L b 6 1 1-1/2 1-Head 1-1/2 2-1/2 9-2 1/4 32.25
7 Express Tour (Velazquez, J.) 123 L 7 4 3-1 3-Head 3-1 1/2 6-Head 10-2 1/4 21.40
8 Affirmed Success (Bailey, J.) 126 L 8 5 5-1/2 5-1 1/2 6-1 1/2 12 11-1 3/4 5.40
5 Balto Star (Day, P.) 123 L 5 3 2-1 2-1 1/2 4-Head 9-1 1/2 12 8.10
Fractional Times:22.79,45.49,1:08.65,1:32.05

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

For the best turf Mile I've ever seen(impressive wise) was this one from 2001.

Belmont Park - October 27th, 2001 - Race 5
Race name: Breeders' Cup Mile
Stakes - For ThoroughbredThree Year Old and UpwardOne Mile On The Turf
Purse: $1,000,000
Value of Race: $1,044,240 1st $592,800, 2nd $228,000, 3rd $136,800, 4th $63,840, 5th $22,800
Weather: Clear Track: Firm
Off at: 2:43Start: Good for all

Pgm HorseName (Jockey) Wgt M/E PP SP 1/4 1/2 3/4 Str Fin Odds
12 Val Royal (FR) (Valdivia, Jr., J.) 126 L 11 11 11-2 1/2 11-2 11-1/2 3-Head 1-1 3/4 5.10
1 Forbidden Apple (Nakatani, C.) 126 L 1 2 4-1/2 4-1/2 2-1 1-1 1/2 2-3/4 8.20
4 Bach (IRE) (Kinane, M.) 126 L 4 6 6-1 6-Head 5-Head 4-1 1/2 3-1 1/2 33.50
13 Irish Prize (Stevens, G.) 126 L 12 10 10-2 1/2 10-1 1/2 9-1/2 5-Head 4-Neck 5.00
2 Navesink (Prado, E.) 123 L 2 7 7-1/2 8-2 8-1/2 7-Head 5-Neck 17.00
10 Brahms (Solis, A.) 126 L b 10 9 9-1 9-1/2 10-1/2 11-Head 6-Neck 12.40
3 Noverre (Dettori, L.) 123 L 3 8 8-2 1/2 7-Head 7-Head 8-1/2 7-1 4.10*
9 Sarafan (Espinoza, V.) 126 L b 9 12 12 12 12 10-1 8-Neck 26.75
6 City Zip (Chavez, J.) 123 L b 6 1 1-1/2 1-Head 1-1/2 2-1/2 9-2 1/4 32.25
7 Express Tour (Velazquez, J.) 123 L 7 4 3-1 3-Head 3-1 1/2 6-Head 10-2 1/4 21.40
8 Affirmed Success (Bailey, J.) 126 L 8 5 5-1/2 5-1 1/2 6-1 1/2 12 11-1 3/4 5.40
5 Balto Star (Day, P.) 123 L 5 3 2-1 2-1 1/2 4-Head 9-1 1/2 12 8.10
Fractional Times:22.79,45.49,1:08.65,1:32.05

Really? I thought that mile was one of the weakest editions.

[randallscott35]

I think Val Royal got a 116 Beyer for this and looked every bit the part doing it incredibly wide and virtually under a hand ride....Not saying anything about the field.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I think Val Royal got a 116 Beyer for this and looked every bit the part doing it incredibly wide and virtually under a hand ride....Not saying anything about the field.

He did come from a long ways back

[CSC]

How can anyone forget the BC Mile where Domedriver won at 25-1, Rock Of Gibralter finishing second, and Landseer breaking down. The good, the bad and the ugly all in one...

BTW I bet DD that day and was obviously happy, but not happy when you saw Prado's interview of Landseer after the race.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Cardus

That was a terrific run from off the pace, and wide, as you typed.

I recall speaking to a friend about him before the race. Val Royal entered the Oak Tree Mile off of a long layoff, and he said that a trainer could get a horse to run a big one off of a layoff, but could he a duplicate performance 2nd out in the BC Mile? I guess that Canani got that 2nd big run. I keyed Bach that day (Euro sprinter angle). Came up a little short.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaPbfrtk5vc

[DaTruth]

The 1985 edition was pretty good. Precisionist, Cozzene, and Pebbles were noteworthy winners. Some very nice horses hit the board including Lady's Secret, Smile, Turkoman, and Gate Dancer. Then there was the Overbrook owned/Jonathan Sheppard trained colt who was nailed at the wire in the Juvy and who would make quite a splash as a sire.

[gamblin4ever]

Lone Star 2004 for me.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

For the best turf Mile I've ever seen(impressive wise) was this one from 2001.

Belmont Park - October 27th, 2001 - Race 5
Race name: Breeders' Cup Mile
Stakes - For ThoroughbredThree Year Old and UpwardOne Mile On The Turf
Purse: $1,000,000
Value of Race: $1,044,240 1st $592,800, 2nd $228,000, 3rd $136,800, 4th $63,840, 5th $22,800
Weather: Clear Track: Firm
Off at: 2:43Start: Good for all

Pgm HorseName (Jockey) Wgt M/E PP SP 1/4 1/2 3/4 Str Fin Odds
12 Val Royal (FR) (Valdivia, Jr., J.) 126 L 11 11 11-2 1/2 11-2 11-1/2 3-Head 1-1 3/4 5.10
1 Forbidden Apple (Nakatani, C.) 126 L 1 2 4-1/2 4-1/2 2-1 1-1 1/2 2-3/4 8.20
4 Bach (IRE) (Kinane, M.) 126 L 4 6 6-1 6-Head 5-Head 4-1 1/2 3-1 1/2 33.50
13 Irish Prize (Stevens, G.) 126 L 12 10 10-2 1/2 10-1 1/2 9-1/2 5-Head 4-Neck 5.00
2 Navesink (Prado, E.) 123 L 2 7 7-1/2 8-2 8-1/2 7-Head 5-Neck 17.00
10 Brahms (Solis, A.) 126 L b 10 9 9-1 9-1/2 10-1/2 11-Head 6-Neck 12.40
3 Noverre (Dettori, L.) 123 L 3 8 8-2 1/2 7-Head 7-Head 8-1/2 7-1 4.10*
9 Sarafan (Espinoza, V.) 126 L b 9 12 12 12 12 10-1 8-Neck 26.75
6 City Zip (Chavez, J.) 123 L b 6 1 1-1/2 1-Head 1-1/2 2-1/2 9-2 1/4 32.25
7 Express Tour (Velazquez, J.) 123 L 7 4 3-1 3-Head 3-1 1/2 6-Head 10-2 1/4 21.40
8 Affirmed Success (Bailey, J.) 126 L 8 5 5-1/2 5-1 1/2 6-1 1/2 12 11-1 3/4 5.40
5 Balto Star (Day, P.) 123 L 5 3 2-1 2-1 1/2 4-Head 9-1 1/2 12 8.10
Fractional Times:22.79,45.49,1:08.65,1:32.05

One race that I always talk about in the office when talking about BC history

[philcski]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I'd vote for that. Other than Invasor it was a great day. Plus we had the benefit of Byk running down to tell us to pound Street Sense as the bias was obvious. Red Rocks was especially nice though was a bit chilly for the FL and Irish human-shippers. Speaking of that Hooves call me!

Bias? really? It was the 4th race of the day, and logical horses had won the first 3 races. How would anyone have surmised there was a bias by that point? Steve was all over Street Sense weeks before that after his premature move in the Keeneland race. (even though I disagree there was a bias anyways, if you do believe there was a bias that day then Invasor was even more impressive. In retrospect there wasn't an oddball dirt result at all.)

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Really? I thought that mile was one of the weakest editions.

Me too... One of the 3 BC's I've actually attended, however it was a great day overall with it being one of the first major sports events in NYC after 9/11 and the great Classic.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

It's very hard to seperate a great number of them. I'd give a slight edge to 1989 though.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by philcski

In retrospect there wasn't an oddball dirt result at all

I thought Round Pond romping in any field was an oddball result.

Either way, I liked 2005 a bunch, but that was the only BC in which I had some success.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by cakes44

I thought Round Pond romping in any field was an oddball result.

Either way, I liked 2005 a bunch, but that was the only BC in which I had some success.

I knew that one would come up. Maybe I'm biased because I bet a LOT of money on her that day, but she won the Acorn, Fantasy, Azeri, and finished 2nd in the Molly Pitcher and a bad-trip 3rd in the Beldame and absolutely fit with that group. Keep in mind the two favorites also DNF'd (sadly). The very good Happy Ticket ran 2nd via DQ producing a very overlaid $446 exacta.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by philcski

I knew that one would come up. Maybe I'm biased because I bet a LOT of money on her that day, but she won the Acorn, Fantasy, Azeri, and finished 2nd in the Molly Pitcher and a bad-trip 3rd in the Beldame and absolutely fit with that group. Keep in mind the two favorites also DNF'd (sadly). The very good Happy Ticket ran 2nd via DQ producing a very overlaid $446 exacta.

Trust me, I know Happy Ticket finished 2nd. I pounded that horse WP and and in exactas with just about every horse but Round Pond. Apparently, the prep race for RP was just too bad to be true.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Trust me, I know Happy Ticket finished 2nd. I pounded that horse WP and and in exactas with just about every horse but Round Pond. Apparently, the prep race for RP was just too bad to be true.

I loved Happy Ticket as a racemare. As honest as they come. Was really sad to see her go early, of all the recent passings that was the one that was the most disappointing to me. She ran her eyeballs everytime they sent her out.

As for that day, she wasn't going to win but that DQ was absolutely the correct call and I'm usually for letting them run. She got knocked offstride really bad, it was right in front of our seats. It was a $4400 decision for me because I didn't have Asi Siempre at all and had Round Pond-Happy Ticket 10 times.

Originally Posted by GPK

I just assumed that would obviously be my vote.

That was the single greatest performance of the Breeders Cups I've attended live. Tiznow a close 2nd and Invasor & Xtra Heat tied for 3rd. The sun came out just before the race, was really cool.

[largo1]

For me, the best Breeders'Cup race is always going to be 2003 in the Classic when TizNow brought it home again. Always sends chills up my spine. Love it, love it , love it!!!

Suzanne