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Old 10-03-2009, 08:44 PM
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Rachel Alexandra is just simply a better horse than Summer Bird no matter the race, track condition, distance, what have you. Rachel ran against Summer Bird in the Haskell over ideal conditions for Summer Bird on his favorite track which is the slop, as well as in his new style. There is no possible case that could made that Summer Bird is a better horse than Rachel Alexandra.
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Old 10-03-2009, 09:04 PM
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There is no possible case that could made that Summer Bird is a better horse than Rachel Alexandra.
You are most wrong sir.

There are illogical cases, cases not well thought out, nonsensical cases, etc in which SB is the better horse.

There are also cases in which RA never beat SB, as well as cases in which SB actually did win the Haskell.
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Old 10-03-2009, 09:10 PM
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You are most wrong sir.

There are illogical cases, cases not well thought out, nonsensical cases, etc in which SB is the better horse.

There are also cases in which RA never beat SB, as well as cases in which SB actually did win the Haskell.
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Old 10-04-2009, 12:02 PM
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Rachel Alexandra is just simply a better horse than Summer Bird no matter the race, track condition, distance, what have you. Rachel ran against Summer Bird in the Haskell over ideal conditions for Summer Bird on his favorite track which is the slop, as well as in his new style. There is no possible case that could made that Summer Bird is a better horse than Rachel Alexandra.
I'm not convinced at at 10 or more furlongs, SB wouldn't handle RA. SB has developed alot this year. He is no longer a dead closer but a horse with a strong mid move that is game to the wire. He is unlike most US horses inthat he's better at 10f and 9. How exactly is Monmouth Summer Bird's "favorite track?" It's a track generally kinder to the leader at the top of the stretch than anyone making up ground.
I don't think that Ice would shrink at all from a 10f rematch with RA.
If SB beats all the horses RA beat this summer and several other major contenders in the BCC, esp if Sea The Stars shows up, then he has to be considered a contender for HOY.
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Old 10-04-2009, 12:07 PM
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The sad thing is that all we can do is speculate. Why do I have a feeling that JJ will spend more time next year mapping out plans than actually running?
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Old 10-04-2009, 12:14 PM
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The sad thing is that all we can do is speculate. Why do I have a feeling that JJ will spend more time next year mapping out plans than actually running?
Chuck the guy race hereverywhere. Who knows how she comes back. I suggest he will parade her anywhere that there is dirt. And if we are luck maybe he will try her on turf.although if she was as good on turf he might get silly and try the Arc. Imagine ASS winning at Longchamps. Oye
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Old 10-04-2009, 01:00 PM
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Chuck the guy race hereverywhere. Who knows how she comes back. I suggest he will parade her anywhere that there is dirt. And if we are luck maybe he will try her on turf.although if she was as good on turf he might get silly and try the Arc. Imagine ASS winning at Longchamps. Oye
We will see.

I dont understand why anyone would not want to see her run on polytrack but would want to see her run in a race and surface that she has no prayer on? At least Curlin was a horse with no distance limitations even though he probably would have struggled with soft turf too.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:08 AM
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Rachel Alexandra is just simply a better horse than Summer Bird no matter the race, track condition, distance, what have you. Rachel ran against Summer Bird in the Haskell over ideal conditions for Summer Bird on his favorite track which is the slop, as well as in his new style. There is no possible case that could made that Summer Bird is a better horse than Rachel Alexandra.

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