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09-30-2009, 06:44 PM
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09-30-2009, 07:03 PM
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Sorry I make you sick but I like to make my observations based on facts not my heart.
She is who she is and her daddy was who he was. 10f is just not their ideal distance. Their racetrack performances seem to confirm this. He was great and she is great but great horses lose to lesser horses all the time because of distance limitations. Don't be surprised if even a superior horse to her like Sea The Stars loses this weekend because he does not want to run 12f. The difference though he is trying it to jump in with the immortals and she is watching birds from her pen at Saratoga.
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09-30-2009, 07:15 PM
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09-30-2009, 07:16 PM
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There are no facts to indicate that " she is just like her daddy "--that is an opinion , as is the fact that daddy lost to horses at 10 furlongs either due to their superiority or his limitations---both or neither... An assessment is never a fact---even a strongly evident one is still an opinion .. Get your facts straight ...
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09-30-2009, 07:17 PM
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09-30-2009, 07:37 PM
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Rachel struggled in the Preakness with a very average horse like MTB and never even tried 10f for a reason.
She had opportunities to run in the 12f Belmont and 10f Travers and opted for two shorter races. I don't know too many people that would rather win a Haskell and Woodward than a Belmont and Travers but I give credit to a very smart trainer that knows his horses limitations. I do not have a problem with his owner not running her again either but I don't think he should be going out and calling himself a sportsman either. He seems to be a bad sport that lost last year to better European horses at Santa Anita but is just a bad loser. I suspect Mr. Jackson will show up at Santa Anita and have no horse in the Classic but he will still try to steal the spotlight from the owners that are competing because he seems to always need to be the center of attention and is not exactly a great ambassador for horse racing.
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10-01-2009, 06:55 AM
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one, i disagree that rachel 'struggled'. two, no one asked rachel where she wanted to run. she didn't 'choose' any of the races. if you want to think rachel would lose at 10f, that's your prerogative. but it's certainly far from fact. as for whether jess is a sportsman or not, i don't see what bearing that would have on whether rachel could handle a classic distance.
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09-30-2009, 09:47 PM
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10-01-2009, 12:04 AM
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Medaglia D Oro's 10 furlong races were still fast, even if he didn't win. And anyways, there's no way to tell for sure until Rachel tries the distance. Many horses outrun their pedigrees.
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10-01-2009, 12:34 AM
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This whole idea that Medaglia d'Oro couldn't get 10 furlongs is totally ridiculous.
First of all, he lost by a head or so in the Belmont....12 furlongs He earned a Beyer Speed Figure of 119 in the Pacific Classic at 10 furlongs. He broke the Del Mar track record that day, and was still beaten some 2 lengths by Candy Ride, who earned a 124. Does the fact that he was beaten that day mean that he can't get 1-1/4? Medaglia d'Oro was beaten a length by Pleasantly Perfect in the 10f Dubai World Cup. He was some 5 lengths in front of the third place horse. Yeah, he couldn't get 10 furlongs.
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10-01-2009, 06:55 AM
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10-01-2009, 08:12 AM
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10-01-2009, 08:28 AM
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What's the deadline for getting into The Classic this year? Has that passed already? If her connections changed their minds, would they still be able to get her into the race... or any BC race this year?
Just curious.
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10-01-2009, 08:51 AM
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If she hasnt been in full training since Sep 6th or whatever.. her deadline for making this race has passed.
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10-01-2009, 08:53 AM
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10-01-2009, 09:46 AM
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I bet he'd also say that Easy Goer couldn't really get 10f because he was only 3-5 at the distance.
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10-01-2009, 11:50 AM
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Here's a little eye-opener for those who have a short memory:
http://community.drf.com/files/medaglia-doro.pdf Horses that "can't get 10 furlongs" don't put up numbers like this against the level of competition displayed here. The W's vs the L's in most cases are pretty defining once the sample gets large enough to be meaningful, but in the case of this particular horse, they are really quite misleading. Just my opinion.
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10-01-2009, 11:38 AM
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very true, but I think the poster was asking "what if they decided to change their mind about plastic".. kinda like Curlin last year. If she's missed a month of full training, there is no way they put Rachel in a big race like the Classic unless she's 100% fit.
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