Relaxed Rachel is still at Spa

Scav · #1 09-30-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander

She's really tired. If a trainer said it was very straining, multiply that statemnt tenfold. Its realy no secret that the Woodward was the last start she'll ever make, and what a good one it was!

There hasnt been a race that emotive at Saratoga since the Holy Bull/Concern Travers and that was like 16 years ago!

With the BC Classic being at Churchill next year, it is almost a lock for her to stay in training for that race specifically...

Gander · #2 09-30-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav

With the BC Classic being at Churchill next year, it is almost a lock for her to stay in training for that race specifically...

Would love to see it. Hope I'm wrong. That race at Saratoga was awesome, and I can only imagine what it would be like at the BC.

richard · #3 09-30-2009, 11:53 AM

"Blasi only wants the filly to stay healthy and happy." She's done so much I think retirement should be considered . However, she could very well be better next year at 4 .

Antitrust32 · #4 09-30-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by richard

"Blasi only wants the filly to stay healthy and happy." She's done so much I think retirement should be considered . However, she could very well be better next year at 4 .

why? She's healthy and getting a breather.. Its not like she can breed 150 mares this year. She should definately race next year. And if she loses one or two races next year they shouldnt automatically retire her either. Even great horses are allowed to lose a couple!

Linny · #5 09-30-2009, 01:04 PM

I saw Rachel last week. She's out in a pen every day and has only jogged a couple of times. She looks like she's gained a bit of weight and her coat looks nice. She seems to enjoy watching flocks of birds land and then take off in the field just beyond her pen.

Thunder Gulch · #6 09-30-2009, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

why? She's healthy and getting a breather.. Its not like she can breed 150 mares this year. She should definately race next year. And if she loses one or two races next year they shouldnt automatically retire her either. Even great horses are allowed to lose a couple!

Agree. If they bring her back, I'm sure they will space it out like they did with Curlin. Whatever happens next year, win or lose, this year will go down in the pages of history as one of the best ever for a filly. They will never take that away and what she does next year can only add to her legacy.

Danzig · #7 09-30-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

With the BC Classic being at Churchill next year, it is almost a lock for her to stay in training for that race specifically...

that's what i'm thinking as well.

TropicalStorm · #8 09-30-2009, 06:34 PM

The only thing less likely than Rachel coming back next year is Rachel coming back for the Breeders Cup Classic. She will struggle in a 10f dirt race against decent horses.

Jackson is less afraid of the synthetic this year than he is of running her at 10f.

She is just like her daddy. A great 9f horse, I believe he was 6 for 6 or close to it at 9f, but he was 2 for 6 at 10f and looked very ordinary with the extra eighth. Rachel appears to have the same issue and her connections are very smart and have figured this out and placed her nicely.

RockHardTen1985 · #9 09-30-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CrossfireHurricane

The only thing less likely than Rachel coming back next year is Rachel coming back for the Breeders Cup Classic. She will struggle in a 10f dirt race against decent horses.

Jackson is less afraid of the synthetic this year than he is of running her at 10f.

She is just like her daddy. A great 9f horse, I believe he was 6 for 6 or close to it at 9f, but he was 2 for 6 at 10f and looked very ordinary with the extra eighth. Rachel appears to have the same issue and her connections are very smart and have figured this out and placed her nicely.

You make me sick.

TropicalStorm · #10 09-30-2009, 07:03 PM

Sorry I make you sick but I like to make my observations based on facts not my heart.

She is who she is and her daddy was who he was. 10f is just not their ideal distance. Their racetrack performances seem to confirm this. He was great and she is great but great horses lose to lesser horses all the time because of distance limitations.

Don't be surprised if even a superior horse to her like Sea The Stars loses this weekend because he does not want to run 12f. The difference though he is trying it to jump in with the immortals and she is watching birds from her pen at Saratoga.

RockHardTen1985 · #11 09-30-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CrossfireHurricane

Sorry I make you sick but I like to make my observations based on facts not my heart.

She is who she is and her daddy was who he was. 10f is just not their ideal distance. Their racetrack performances seem to confirm this. He was great and she is great but great horses lose to lesser horses all the time because of distance limitations.

Don't be surprised if even a superior horse to her like Sea The Stars loses this weekend because he does not want to run 12f. The difference though he is trying it to jump in with the immortals and she is watching birds from her pen at Saratoga.

Her daddy was fine at 10f.

prudery · #12 09-30-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CrossfireHurricane

Sorry I make you sick but I like to make my observations based on facts not my heart.

She is who she is and her daddy was who he was. 10f is just not their ideal distance. Their racetrack performances seem to confirm this. He was great and she is great but great horses lose to lesser horses all the time because of distance limitations.

Don't be surprised if even a superior horse to her like Sea The Stars loses this weekend because he does not want to run 12f. The difference though he is trying it to jump in with the immortals and she is watching birds from her pen at Saratoga.

Being that Rachel has never run 10 furlongs, your observations are based on NO facts ...

There are no facts to indicate that " she is just like her daddy "--that is an opinion , as is the fact that daddy lost to horses at 10 furlongs either due to their superiority or his limitations---both or neither...

An assessment is never a fact---even a strongly evident one is still an opinion ..

Get your facts straight ...

RockHardTen1985 · #13 09-30-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by prudery

Being that Rachel has never run 10 furlongs, your observations are based on NO facts ...

There are no facts to indicate that " she is just like her daddy "--that is an opinion , as is the fact that daddy lost to horses at 10 furlongs either due to their superiority or his limitations---both or neither...

An assessment is never a fact---even a strongly evident one is still an opinion ..

Get your facts straight ...

Cannon Shell · #14 09-30-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

You make me sick.

letswastemoney · #15 10-01-2009, 12:04 AM

Medaglia D Oro's 10 furlong races were still fast, even if he didn't win. And anyways, there's no way to tell for sure until Rachel tries the distance. Many horses outrun their pedigrees.

Soaring Softly · #16 10-01-2009, 12:34 AM

This whole idea that Medaglia d'Oro couldn't get 10 furlongs is totally ridiculous.

First of all, he lost by a head or so in the Belmont....12 furlongs

He earned a Beyer Speed Figure of 119 in the Pacific Classic at 10 furlongs. He broke the Del Mar track record that day, and was still beaten some 2 lengths by Candy Ride, who earned a 124. Does the fact that he was beaten that day mean that he can't get 1-1/4?

Medaglia d'Oro was beaten a length by Pleasantly Perfect in the 10f Dubai World Cup. He was some 5 lengths in front of the third place horse.

Yeah, he couldn't get 10 furlongs.

Antitrust32 · #17 10-01-2009, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

You make me sick.

dean smith · #18 10-01-2009, 08:28 AM

What's the deadline for getting into The Classic this year? Has that passed already? If her connections changed their minds, would they still be able to get her into the race... or any BC race this year?

Just curious.

Antitrust32 · #19 10-01-2009, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dean smith

What's the deadline for getting into The Classic this year? Has that passed already? If her connections changed their minds, would they still be able to get her into the race... or any BC race this year?

Just curious.

If she hasnt been in full training since Sep 6th or whatever.. her deadline for making this race has passed.