If Zenyatta wins the Classic

RockHardTen1985 · #1 09-22-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor

The pipe, put it down.

HOY was WRAPPED UP a few weeks ago.

WHatever, I think Rachel is better SURE... Thats not the point... Zenyatta's toughest competition is Icon Project.... She might as well run in the Classic.

Merlinsky · #2 09-22-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

WHatever, I think Rachel is better SURE... Thats not the point... Zenyatta's toughest competition is Icon Project.... She might as well run in the Classic.

If you count the pros and cons of each race, it just makes more sense to go in the Classic. Heaven forbid she ran in the Ladies Classic (*cough*Distaff*cough*) and lost. It's a matter of time before racing luck gets in the way of that undefeated streak and it would deflate things just a bit if it was a loss to her own gender that she shouldn't have had. I'd like to see her at least try something extraordinary given the unimaginative campaign thus far (not their fault it's in California and she had a non-CA rain-out, it's just not as difficult as it could've been). If she gets a chance to unwind against the boys, could be an exciting thing to see whether she wins or not.

Given that she and Mine That Bird would be offering each other a running buddy, I wonder how that's gonna go. I was having trouble with At The Races online, dunno if it was just me, but I'll try to stream the archives to hear what Haskin had to say. Was he on again today or was that the one from Monday? Can't ever have too much, I just wondered which to listen to first. Maybe they've already discussed it, but who shadows who? MTB and Zenyatta, I mean.

postpicker · #3 09-22-2009, 09:34 PM

The question you have to ask is, if Zenyatta wins the BC Classic and ends up with a 4 for 4 or 5 for 5 record this year, is that accomplishment better than Rachel's 8 for 8 record this year. The HOY should be for your accomplishment the WHOLE year. Personally, I think HOY is Rachel's.

DaTruth · #4 09-22-2009, 09:37 PM

Zenyatta could win the Ladies Classic on Friday and the Classic on Saturday and she still won't be HOY.

RockHardTen1985 · #5 09-23-2009, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth

Zenyatta could win the Ladies Classic on Friday and the Classic on Saturday and she still won't be HOY.

This is original.

MisterB · #6 09-23-2009, 06:31 AM

Z has no chance for HOY. Not even close for God sakes. She runs on used condums, not dirt. She beat up on nobody.

Gate Dancer · #7 09-23-2009, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth

Zenyatta could win the Ladies Classic on Friday and the Classic on Saturday and she still won't be HOY.

Why not throw in the Clark Handicap on Nov 27th at Churchill???

There is no contest on HOY.................

pweizer · #8 09-23-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth

Zenyatta could win the Ladies Classic on Friday and the Classic on Saturday and she still won't be HOY.

If she did that, she would win HOY. Talk about sportsmanship...

Short of that, the issue has been settled.

Paul

Linny · #9 09-23-2009, 11:26 AM

Z must win the Classic to beat RA but I'd hardly say that the issue is settled. If some of the leading Euro's take to it like last year's bunch and run huge and the most proven older horses and the leading 3yo's are all beaten by Zenyatta in the Classic, how does RA win for beating a) the same good 3yo's as Z and b) lesser older horses.
IF (and that is a big IF) Z beats all that RA (MTB, SB, Macho Again etc) did and more (granting that Sea the Stars, Einstein, Rail Trip etc are better than Macho Again and Bullsbay) how does she not win HOY.

Antitrust32 · #10 09-23-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Linny

Z must win the Classic to beat RA but I'd hardly say that the issue is settled. If some of the leading Euro's take to it like last year's bunch and run huge and the most proven older horses and the leading 3yo's are all beaten by Zenyatta in the Classic, how does RA win for beating a) the same good 3yo's as Z and b) lesser older horses.
IF (and that is a big IF) Z beats all that RA (MTB, SB, Macho Again etc) did and more (granting that Sea the Stars, Einstein, Rail Trip etc are better than Macho Again and Bullsbay) how does she not win HOY.

Sea the Stars is of course much better than Macho Again.. but I dont think Einstein (at this point in his career) and Rail Trip are better than Macho Again and Bullsbay. I'd say they are all pretty equal. And Rail Trip is the unknown cause he runs on the plastic. The West Coast older horses are equally as crappy as the East Coast.. just the Euro's are obviously superior.