Macho Again

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I think Macho Again is horrible.

He's a solid 102-108ish Beyer horse... in today's world, that's good. The days of the 115 Beyer handicap division are gonesville.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

He's a solid 102-108ish Beyer horse... in today's world, that's good. The days of the 115 Beyer handicap division are gonesville.

I dont know Travis. I just dont see it, its like he falls into those numbers. He gets a pefect setup in The Whitney and clunks for second. I actually just watched the replay, he is making up no ground on Bullsbay. Then in the Woodward he is supposed to blow her away, and he just hangs. Maybe I dont give him any credit, but I think a handfull of the 3 yr olds are better as well as fillies like Zenyatta and Icon Project.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I dont know Travis. I just dont see it, its like he falls into those numbers. He gets a pefect setup in The Whitney and clunks for second. I actually just watched the replay, he is making up no ground on Bullsbay. Then in the Woodward he is supposed to blow her away, and he just hangs. Maybe I dont give him any credit, but I think a handfull of the 3 yr olds are better as well as fillies like Zenyatta and Icon Project.

I'm not saying he's Cigar Jr., but he's not a bum. He always run his race and sometimes it'll get him there. I guess my point was in today's racing game, the days of Ghostzapper are few, far and gone.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I'm not saying he's Cigar Jr., but he's not a bum. He always run his race and sometimes it'll get him there. I guess my point was in today's racing game, the days of Ghostzapper are few, far and gone.

I agree he's a honest horse, he will never be mentioned in the same breath as RA nor should he be mentioned in the same breath as a Dollar Bill. He lies somewhere in between.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

The days of the 115 Beyer handicap division are gonesville.

Just because they've been missing for 2 or 3 years certainly doesn't mean that they are gone.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Just because they've been missing for 2 or 3 years certainly doesn't mean that they are gone.

On polytrack?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by CSC

On polytrack?

Why not?

Richard's Kid got a 107 Beyer in the Pac Classic ... and Song of Navarone and Awesome Gem got 102's for running 6th and 7th.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Why not?

Richard's Kid got a 107 Beyer in the Pac Classic ... and Song of Navarone and Awesome Gem got 102's for running 6th and 7th.

Turf beyers and Poly numbers should be taken with a grain of salt IMO, if the final time is the means to arriving at them. Since some turf and poly races are basically crawl and sprints the final may skew them. I think the poly numbers can vary depending on the pace, do figure makers take pace into account? I'd like to know.

[Antitrust32]

anyone know what Rachel got beyer wise on Saturday? Was a fast race...

she's really somethin thats for sure.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

anyone know what Rachel got beyer wise on Saturday? Was a fast race...

she's really somethin thats for sure.

109 is the "preliminary" figure.

NT

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

He's a solid 102-108ish Beyer horse... in today's world, that's good. The days of the 115 Beyer handicap division are gonesville.

If Poly figures are still being rated on the low side, I would agree. However they have been supposedly adjusted...