Horse of the Year

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Sea the Stars looks like a great horse and Goldikova is supposedly better than she was last year so I'm sure they'll both have great chances in the BC. However, there's no reason for the American Horse of the Year to go to a horse who's made one start in this country. There are surely honors to be given to these great horses on your side of the pond.

As far as Borel getting a suspension for his ride, that's not going to happen. That's American racing for you, like it or not.

NT

I think if Sea the Stars comes here and wins the Classic, he will be HOY. If he comes for the turf, it wont matter.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I think if Sea the Stars comes here and wins the Classic, he will be HOY. If he comes for the turf, it wont matter.

No way in hell.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I think if Sea the Stars comes here and wins the Classic, he will be HOY. If he comes for the turf, it wont matter.

I don't.

NT

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I don't.

NT

Im not saying its a lock, but if she does not run again. He comes over and wins the Classic for run, vs Z and the Birds. I think he will get it.

[KirisClown]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im not saying its a lock, but if she does not run again. He comes over and wins the Classic for run, vs Z and the Birds. I think he will get it.

That means he would also have to win the eclipse for best 3yr old..

Top 3yr old and Horse of the Year off of one race? The chances of it happening are zero...

[King Glorious]

If many other European horses have been able to come here and win championships off of one race, I don't understand why people think it's such a dumb idea to suggest Sea the Stars should be considered. Arazi was not only named champion 2yo but was also one of the three finalists for HOY in 1991 and that was after winning the Juvenile. Singspiel was named turf champion in 1996 even though he never won a race in this country. As long as the only criteria is that a horse must have started at least once in North America, if Sea the Stars were to come over and win, he'd get my vote. If you think Rachel is the best horse, then vote for her. But to me, it would be stupid if you believe that Sea the Stars is the best, that you would not vote for a horse that is qualified.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

If many other European horses have been able to come here and win championships off of one race, I don't understand why people think it's such a dumb idea to suggest Sea the Stars should be considered. Arazi was not only named champion 2yo but was also one of the three finalists for HOY in 1991 and that was after winning the Juvenile. Singspiel was named turf champion in 1996 even though he never won a race in this country. As long as the only criteria is that a horse must have started at least once in North America, if Sea the Stars were to come over and win, he'd get my vote. If you think Rachel is the best horse, then vote for her. But to me, it would be stupid if you believe that Sea the Stars is the best, that you would not vote for a horse that is qualified.

i'd have to go back and look at the other candidates for the years mentioned, but i think euros generally only get more attention in years when we don't have viable candidates for hoy. this year is far from that scenario.

as for people talking about zenyatta in the classic, don't get your hopes up. and as for beating 'the birds', mine that bird hasn't won since may-just how good is he really, when he's yet to back up what is looking more and more like a fluke win? and beating summer bird and mine that bird puts you on par with rachel, not ahead of her.

[mbahadur]

Originally Posted by Danzig

as for people talking about zenyatta in the classic, don't get your hopes up. and as for beating 'the birds', mine that bird hasn't won since may-just how good is he really, when he's yet to back up what is looking more and more like a fluke win? and beating summer bird and mine that bird puts you on par with rachel, not ahead of her.

Zenyatta's main competition in the Classic will come from European horses with strong turf form, not from "the birds". Zenyatta could easily finish further ahead of Mine That Bird in the Classic than Rachel did in the Preakness. I would take Einstein (who has proven synthetic form and won the Big Cap at Santa Anita) to finish ahead of "the birds".

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

If many other European horses have been able to come here and win championships off of one race, I don't understand why people think it's such a dumb idea to suggest Sea the Stars should be considered. Arazi was not only named champion 2yo but was also one of the three finalists for HOY in 1991 and that was after winning the Juvenile. Singspiel was named turf champion in 1996 even though he never won a race in this country. As long as the only criteria is that a horse must have started at least once in North America, if Sea the Stars were to come over and win, he'd get my vote. If you think Rachel is the best horse, then vote for her. But to me, it would be stupid if you believe that Sea the Stars is the best, that you would not vote for a horse that is qualified.

It is time for you to become born again it is the only thing that is going to save you. King you need salvation! What does the fact that Sea the Star would crush Rachel at 11f's on the grass at Leopardstown have to do with HOY? He isn't getting within 4 lengths of her at 7f's on dirt so who cares if he would beat her around 4 turns and thru the woods at Longchamps?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by freddymo

It is time for you to become born again it is the only thing that is going to save you. King you need salvation! What does the fact that Sea the Star would crush Rachel at 11f's on the grass at Leopardstown have to do with HOY? He isn't getting within 4 lengths of her at 7f's on dirt so who cares if he would beat her around 4 turns and thru the woods at Longchamps?

Can she beat him going 10 on dirt?
That's a question that Tiznow answered twice.

[KirisClown]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Singspiel was named turf champion in 1996 even though he never won a race in this country. As long as the only criteria is that a horse must have started at least once in North America, if Sea the Stars were to come over and win, he'd get my vote.

The difference is this year you have Rachel Alexandra in one corner.. back then you had Diplomatic Jet, Mecke, Sandpit, Talloires etc..

A victory in the BC Classic isn't going to rival all of RA's accomplishments...

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by KirisClown

The difference is this year you have Rachel Alexandra in one corner.. back then you had Diplomatic Jet, Mecke, Sandpit, Talloires etc..

A victory in the BC Classic isn't going to rival all of RA's accomplishments...

Haskin sums up her accomplishments great in the article. The only filly or mare to EVER win 3 Grade 1 races against the other gender in one year.

There is absolutely no way that any horse besides Rachel Alexandra is Horse of the Year this year...

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im not saying its a lock, but if she does not run again. He comes over and wins the Classic for run, vs Z and the Birds. I think he will get it.

He has no shot (for HOY).

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I think if Sea the Stars comes here and wins the Classic, he will be HOY. If he comes for the turf, it wont matter.

only if he becomes Mr. Ed and gives a post race interview....

HOY is a lady yea ,yea she's a lady, hopefully she runs next year....