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Old 09-05-2009, 05:44 PM
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We have seen her rate before.. The ride was comical. If you don't recognize how absurd it was then you'll need to consult people who's opinion you respect on race riding. We all knew Borel could get her beat and he did his very very best.
I love when you guys say they should just rate her. If he had got her bottled up and steadied or checked then you would complain too. He rode her as good as he could considering the circumstances. If the first fraction was .17 slower no one would even notice the fraction. I'm sure Turcotte got Secretariat beat by Onion too right?
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Old 09-05-2009, 05:45 PM
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I love when you guys say they should just rate her. If he had got her bottled up and steadied or checked then you would complain too. He rode her as good as he could considering the circumstances. If the first fraction was .17 slower no one would even notice the fraction. I'm sure Turcotte got Secretariat beat by Onion too right?
Great point Chuck! No doubt it was a better ride than most would think.
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Old 09-05-2009, 05:50 PM
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Can't see anything wrong with the ride and horse is something unreal. Where did all the other horses that were on the pace end up? Way, way back.

The horse is amazing.
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Old 09-05-2009, 05:56 PM
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I love when you guys say they should just rate her. If he had got her bottled up and steadied or checked then you would complain too. He rode her as good as he could considering the circumstances. If the first fraction was .17 slower no one would even notice the fraction. I'm sure Turcotte got Secretariat beat by Onion too right?

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Her narrow margin over Macho Again, a G1 winner but a horse who has never been mistaken for Man o'War, was deceptive. Rachel Alexandra's pace -- 22.85, 46.41, 1:10.54, and 1:35.48 -- was sensationally fast for a nine-furlong race at Saratoga, and when Macho Again came running at her late, he would have gone right by any ordinary racehorse. But Rachel Alexandra had something left, running her final furlong in 12.81 to turn back the challenge.

Not much of a speed duel..Crist knows SENSATIONALLY FAST when he sees it I am sure CJ and DrugS will post the PACE FIG's which are going to lights out..

Your funny if it was .17 slower nobody would notice.
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Old 09-05-2009, 05:59 PM
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Her narrow margin over Macho Again, a G1 winner but a horse who has never been mistaken for Man o'War, was deceptive. Rachel Alexandra's pace -- 22.85, 46.41, 1:10.54, and 1:35.48 -- was sensationally fast for a nine-furlong race at Saratoga, and when Macho Again came running at her late, he would have gone right by any ordinary racehorse. But Rachel Alexandra had something left, running her final furlong in 12.81 to turn back the challenge.

Not much of a speed duel..Crist knows SENSATIONALLY FAST when he sees it I am CJ and DrugS will post the PACE FIG's which are going to lights out..

Your funny if it was .17 slower nobody would notice.
Get a grip. No one said it wasnt fast. Going fast early is how most races are won isnt it? That is how the horse runs, plain and simple. If the fracions were 23, 46.41 there would be a whole lot less hysteria about the pace.
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Old 09-05-2009, 06:05 PM
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Get a grip. No one said it wasnt fast. Going fast early is how most races are won isnt it? That is how the horse runs, plain and simple. If the fracions were 23, 46.41 there would be a whole lot less hysteria about the pace.
The pace was wicked fast..Move on Sir..
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Old 09-05-2009, 06:06 PM
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The pace was wicked fast..Move on Sir..
The ride was fine. You should be complaining about the 7 boneheads in the Linda Rice fixer on the turf in the 4th.
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Old 09-05-2009, 06:32 PM
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The ride was fine. You should be complaining about the 7 boneheads in the Linda Rice fixer on the turf in the 4th.
You are on top of your game today..

Per Crist on the 4th race:
Dominguez and Rice-trained Mother Russia put the field asleep behind them wiring the 4th, but the official fractions of 25.19, 49.94, 1:14.37 and 1:36.47 mean that the front-runner ran progressively faster quarters of 25.19, 24.75, 24.43 and 22.10. This would also mean that Exclusive Scheme, who closed two lengths in th final quarter to be third, came home in something like 21.75. I'm just not buying it.
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Old 09-05-2009, 06:34 PM
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You are on top of your game today..

Per Crisrt on the 4th race:
Dominguez and Rice-trained Mother Russia put the field asleep behind them wiring the 4th, but the official fractions of 25.19, 49.94, 1:14.37 and 1:36.47 mean that the front-runner ran progressively faster quarters of 25.19, 24.75, 24.43 and 22.10. This would also mean that Exclusive Scheme, who closed two lengths in th final quarter to be third, came home in something like 21.75. I'm just not buying it.
That was a Jerry Bailey special. He is on the main speed and everyone takes back and concedes the race.
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Old 09-05-2009, 06:36 PM
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You are on top of your game today..

Per Crisrt on the 4th race:
Dominguez and Rice-trained Mother Russia put the field asleep behind them wiring the 4th, but the official fractions of 25.19, 49.94, 1:14.37 and 1:36.47 mean that the front-runner ran progressively faster quarters of 25.19, 24.75, 24.43 and 22.10. This would also mean that Exclusive Scheme, who closed two lengths in th final quarter to be third, came home in something like 21.75. I'm just not buying it.
Arent the races still hand timed on the turf?
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