As expected Crist is the man about the girl

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I could care less about being on a Top 100 list. That's not the point..it's a personal agenda he has about the surface..nothing more, nothing less

Who freakin cares if he has a personal agenda about the surface - you think it's a wonderful surface and that fine, so run your horses on it. If he thinks it was a bad decision to run the BC at Santa Anita again and doesn't support it than he can run HIS horse elsewhere. Like he is doing - and doing a damn good job at it.

Do you do what everyone tells you you should do with your horses?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Who freakin cares if he has a personal agenda about the surface - you think it's a wonderful surface and that fine, so run your horses on it. If he thinks it was a bad decision to run the BC at Santa Anita again and doesn't support it than he can run HIS horse elsewhere. Like he is doing - and doing a damn good job at it.

Do you do what everyone tells you you should do with your horses?

He's a hypocrite. Last year he took all the glory for running Curlin as a 4 year old and waved the "good of the game" flag proudly. I'm not going to stand firm that poly is good for racing or bad for it...that is a very debateable and legitimate conversation, but in my mind there is no way you can say that not running her in the sport's Championship races is consistant with what he was claiming last year with Curlin.

And I would say the same thing to Zenyatta's connection if the BC was at CD this year and they wouldn't ship there.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by GBBob

He's a hypocrite. Last year he took all the glory for running Curlin as a 4 year old and waved the "good of the game" flag proudly. I'm not going to stand firm that poly is good for racing or bad for it...that is a very debateable and legitimate conversation, but in my mind there is no way you can say that not running her in the sport's Championship races is consistant with what he was claiming last year with Curlin.

And I would say the same thing to Zenyatta's connection if the BC was at CD this year and they wouldn't ship there.

At least you're fair with your criticism.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

At least you're fair with your criticism.

Yeah..but they would just run Zenyatta on the turf

[CSC]

For all this safe and conservative talk, one thing is a certain Zenyatta will be on the biggest stage of racing this fall, RA may or may not. To me Zenyatta's connections got it right this time not RA's.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by CSC

For all this safe and conservative talk, one thing is a certain Zenyatta will be on the biggest stage of racing this fall, RA may or may not. To me Zenyatta's connections got this right this time not RA's.

You really can't give them credit for this, can you? It fell in their lap

[CSC]

Originally Posted by GBBob

You really can't give them credit for this, can you? It fell in their lap

I don't care about patting them on the back or not, I think we all want to see the best horses on the biggest stage. As a fan and horseplayer this is all that matters to me.

[Sightseek]

So, just curious....

How many of you really honestly think having the Breeder's Cup at Santa Anita was a good idea?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

So, just curious....

How many of you really honestly think having the Breeder's Cup at Santa Anita was a good idea?

No one thought it was a good idea (except for the braintrust at the BC and SA). But it is what it is. At least it wont rain.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

So, just curious....

How many of you really honestly think having the Breeder's Cup at Santa Anita was a good idea?

I thought last year's BC was one of the better one's I have witnessed, the only one's against this are the traditionalists who probably have their own agenda's.
Ie. The sore losers

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

So, just curious....

How many of you really honestly think having the Breeder's Cup at Santa Anita was a good idea?

I love the idea from a personal side, there is almost nothing better then watching races at Santa Anita 15 feet from the finish line for $10, drinking maragaritas served to you by hot struggling actresses, and jumping up in down because some crazy horse this Irish guy gives you wins easily.....

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

So, just curious....

How many of you really honestly think having the Breeder's Cup at Santa Anita was a good idea?

Not me. Didn't bet a dime last year and won't do so again this year.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Yeah..but they would just run Zenyatta on the turf

Sheriff's listed first time at a new distance as one of the reasons that he didn't want to run in races like the SA Handicap so that is very, very doubtful.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Who freakin cares if he has a personal agenda about the surface - you think it's a wonderful surface and that fine, so run your horses on it. If he thinks it was a bad decision to run the BC at Santa Anita again and doesn't support it than he can run HIS horse elsewhere. Like he is doing - and doing a damn good job at it.

Do you do what everyone tells you you should do with your horses?

When the best horse in the country skips the championship day because of a personal agenda I think it is something to discuss. Say his personal agenda was that he didnt like Frank Stronach and wont race at his tracks? Would you play a different tune then?

And I think that if most of us had the 8 million to buy her after the Oaks we too could do a fine job with her. It is liking saying Albert Pujols is having a great year because Tony LaRussa bats him third in the lineup. Scuds could manage the team and that guy would hit just as almost any trainer/owner combo could win with RA.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

When the best horse in the country skips the championship day because of a personal agenda I think it is something to discuss. Say his personal agenda was that he didnt like Frank Stronach and wont race at his tracks? Would you play a different tune then?

And I think that if most of us had the 8 million to buy her after the Oaks we too could do a fine job with her. It is liking saying Albert Pujols is having a great year because Tony LaRussa bats him third in the lineup. Scuds could manage the team and that guy would hit just as almost any trainer/owner combo could win with RA.

There are plenty of legit reasons not to run her on Pro Ride. If DrugS thinks she would be buried there is a dam good reason he is saying it. Sometimes horseman and handicappers need to work together. A friend of mine is a terrific handicapper and some horseman use him for advise. I have seen were his advised has made the trainers look very smart.

DrugS maybe a lot of things but he is no dummy when he says she would be trounced on Pro Ride there is some merit to it. I don't know if he is right but I know he is just not saying it to be an idiot.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

There are plenty of legit reasons not to run her on Pro Ride. If DrugS thinks she would be buried there is a dam good reason he is saying it. Sometimes horseman and handicappers need to work together. A friend of mine is a terrific handicapper and some horseman use him for advise. I have seen were his advised has made the trainers look very smart.

DrugS maybe a lot of things but he is no dummy when he says she would be trounced on Pro Ride there is some merit to it. I don't know if he is right but I know he is just not saying it to be an idiot.

If Jackson said that after consulting with Drugs he wouldnt run it would have more merit than what he is saying now.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

If Jackson said that after consulting with Drugs he wouldnt run it would have more merit than what he is saying now.

Chuck I like you want to see Rachel run in the Classic but she likely won't. The crime is we have billions of dollars spent on training and racing dirt horses and Championship day is devoid of a dirt race. It's like they canceled the day and made a new one SURPISE. I think Jess thinks he can make a difference and make sure this never happens again. He has done a marvelous job racing her, unfortunately people will remember him for not racing her.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by freddymo

There are plenty of legit reasons not to run her on Pro Ride. If DrugS thinks she would be buried there is a dam good reason he is saying it. Sometimes horseman and handicappers need to work together. A friend of mine is a terrific handicapper and some horseman use him for advise. I have seen were his advised has made the trainers look very smart.

DrugS maybe a lot of things but he is no dummy when he says she would be trounced on Pro Ride there is some merit to it. I don't know if he is right but I know he is just not saying it to be an idiot.

jk DrugS