Summer Bird pointed for The BC

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by CSC

Firstly, What does this have to do with the Summer Bird and RA argument?

It shows that you are making no sense at all.

Originally Posted by CSC

Secondly individually selectively quotes and placing them in the wrong context to try to hurt someone's credibility because you may be getting hot under the collar is not what I expected from you.

For the record .. I'm not "hot under the collar" in the least and I'm not concerned with attacking your board cred.

Originally Posted by CSC

If I am wrong I am sorry, but this is a discussion and I hold no hard feelings once I am logged on or off.

Thank you Drugs.

It is Mr. DrugS to you.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

It shows that you are making no sense at all.





For the record .. I'm not "hot under the collar" in the least and I'm not concerned with attacking your board cred.






It is Mr. DrugS to you.

This is all great and all, but I still I don't get it, how does this exactly relate to Rachel Alexandra beating Summer Bird like a drum if they meet in the JCGC? Mr. DrugS...

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by CSC

This is all great and all, but I still I don't get it, how does this exactly relate to Rachel Alexandra beating Summer Bird like a drum if they meet in the JCGC? Mr. DrugS...

That is a fine question.

And something you should answer since you're the one who posted the surface argument in your attempts to undermine Rachel.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

That is a fine question.

And something you should answer since you're the one who posted the surface argument in your attempts to undermine Rachel.

In addition, I don't agree in the correalation between grass being equal to synthetics when it comes to comparing Cigar to RA.

My argument is I believe dirt and poly should be synomonous or atleast closer than dirt/turf.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by CSC

In addition, I don't agree in the correalation between grass being equal to synthetics when it comes to comparing Cigar to RA.

My argument is I believe dirt and poly should be synomonous or atleast closer than dirt/turf.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

The point is why compare Cigar to RA in the 1st place when synthetic tracks were not around back then. Cigar didn't race well on turf, everyone knows the story, I am not suggesting RA race on turf, but as mentioned by another poster RA has won on poly, abeit it was not a significant win...but it was a win, then why the reluctance to race in the BC?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by CSC

The point is why compare Cigar to RA in the 1st place when synthetic tracks were not around back then. Cigar didn't race well on turf, everyone knows the story, I am not suggesting RA race on turf, but as mentioned by another poster RA has won on poly, abeit it was not a significant win...but it was a win, then why the reluctance to race in the BC?

Jackson loved Curlin thinks we was g-ds gift to racing. He watched his all time great lose on Pro Ride so he figures that he can't bear to watch Rachel lose on it. Plus he likes making grand statements and what better a time and place to get his message across..Of course , it is self serving and off color but it is his right to express himself. He ponied up the 6 to 10mil(u hear so many people who KNOW the price) Basically in comes down to this "in his club he can splash the pot whenever the FCUK he wants" (per TEDDY KGB in Rounders).

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by CSC

The point is why compare Cigar to RA in the 1st place when synthetic tracks were not around back then. Cigar didn't race well on turf, everyone knows the story, I am not suggesting RA race on turf, but as mentioned by another poster RA has won on poly, abeit it was not a significant win...but it was a win, then why the reluctance to race in the BC?

I'm sure they arent scared of running her in the BC.

The answer is really simple. The owner of said horse hates artificial surfaces. He calls them plastic in interviews. He did not want to run his superstar horse on plastic last year, gave in, and probably was not happy with the results. He doesnt want to run her on plastic.

I'd blame Rachel not being in the BC on the Breeders Cup idiots more than Jackson. If the race was at another track like Churchill, Gulfstream, Belmont, Oaklawn, the Fairgrounds, etc... I would be surprised if she DIDNT show up. She's not ducking out of the Breeders Cup.. its extremely obvious he is not afraid of runner her in ANY spot. her owner is taking a stand against plastic.. and I dont blame him.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

That is a fine question.

And something you should answer since you're the one who posted the surface argument in your attempts to undermine Rachel.

I missed a part of your reply, here's my answer:

I introduced it towards the argument of Zenyatta mostly, it would seem to be a contradiction at first however Cigar on the other hand I think we can agree was campaigned agressively during his career. I don't think it's the same thing comparing him to RA. Who knows if there were poly back then he would have been bad on it, maybe he would have been good on it, we just don't know. However Zenyatta did win the Apple Blossom, a significant stakes race and RA has not yet on 2 surfaces.

And it is just CSC to you, no Mr.