9/5 (SAR): Woodward (G1)

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

The field:

Post position (program number)

1. (1) Da' Tara - Jose Lezcano - Nick Zito - 12-1

2. (2) Bullsbay - Jeremy Rose - Graham Motion - 6-1

3. (3) Rachel Alexandra - Calvin Borel - Steve Asmussen - 1-2

4. (1A) Cool Coal Man - John Velazquez - Nick Zito - 12-1

5. (4) Macho Again - Robby Albarado - Dallas Stewart - 8-1

6. (5) It's a Bird - Julien Leparoux - Marty Wolfson - 10-1

7. (6) Asiatic Boy - Alan Garcia - Kiaran McLaughlin - 10-1

8. 7) Past the Point - Edgar Prado - Eoin Harty 15-1

Da' Tara and Cool Coal Man coupled

Does everyone still think the Travers was such a tougher race than this still? I know there are no Invasor's in here or even Lawyer Ron's... but its a nice field for what we have out there.

I'm not going to bet but if I was it wouldnt be on Rachel.. Macho Again would probably take my cash.. and burn it. lol

I hope she wins and if she runs her race she should, but this is no gimme.

[Clip-Clop]

Wolfson's horses run big at the right time, perhaps he can get it done.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Does everyone still think the Travers was such a tougher race than this still? I know there are no Invasor's in here or even Lawyer Ron's... but its a nice field for what we have out there.

I'm not going to bet but if I was it wouldnt be on Rachel.. Macho Again would probably take my cash.. and burn it. lol

I hope she wins and if she runs her race she should, but this is no gimme.

I think this race is tougher than the Travers.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Does everyone still think the Travers was such a tougher race than this still? I know there are no Invasor's in here or even Lawyer Ron's... but its a nice field for what we have out there.

I'm not going to bet but if I was it wouldnt be on Rachel.. Macho Again would probably take my cash.. and burn it. lol

I hope she wins and if she runs her race she should, but this is no gimme.

Prior to the Travers, that would have been a good question to the Quality Road backers. For the record I'd take QR over these horses.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by CSC

Prior to the Travers, that would have been a good question to the Quality Road backers. I'd take QR over these horses.

He fits with these horses at 9 furlongs, he wasn't ready for 10.

[Alan07]

12 races Saturday

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by CSC

Prior to the Travers, that would have been a good question to the Quality Road backers. I'd take QR over these horses.

I didnt understand the Quality Road buzz before the Travers. His race in the FL Derby was awesome but that was quite awhile ago now. His 6.5 furlong race was good but as it was pointed out on here by DrugS.. the final time had a lot to do with the speedy track, and the 2nd place finisher broke the track record also.


Again I didnt bet the Travers.. but your horse (Summer Bird) was the best bet, he was the most accomplished, very classy & you know he was going to love 1 1/4. & the odds were great.

Other than Summer Bird the only other option IMO would have been to chase a longshot.

I really wasnt feeling the Quality road buzz.. SB deserved that buzz more IMO.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I didnt understand the Quality Road buzz before the Travers. His race in the FL Derby was awesome but that was quite awhile ago now. His 6.5 furlong race was good but as it was pointed out on here by DrugS.. the final time had a lot to do with the speedy track, and the 2nd place finisher broke the track record also.


Again I didnt bet the Travers.. but your horse (Summer Bird) was the best bet, he was the most accomplished, very classy & you know he was going to love 1 1/4. & the odds were great.

Other than Summer Bird the only other option IMO would have been to chase a longshot.

I really wasnt feeling the Quality road buzz.. SB deserved that buzz more IMO.

And won another big race on Saturday.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I didnt understand the Quality Road buzz before the Travers. His race in the FL Derby was awesome but that was quite awhile ago now. His 6.5 furlong race was good but as it was pointed out on here by DrugS.. the final time had a lot to do with the speedy track, and the 2nd place finisher broke the track record also.


Again I didnt bet the Travers.. but your horse (Summer Bird) was the best bet, he was the most accomplished, very classy & you know he was going to love 1 1/4. & the odds were great.
Other than Summer Bird the only other option IMO would have been to chase a longshot.

I really wasnt feeling the Quality road buzz.. SB deserved that buzz more IMO.

I couldn't agree more on the bolded, I posted before the race I thought QR was the only horse with enough talent to give SB a run for his money. In addition Mine That Bird was a go until they changed plans in the last minute, it would have been a very good field had all the TC series race winners decided to run in it esp with the addition of QR.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by CSC

I couldn't agree more on the bolded, I posted before the race I thought QR was the only horse with enough talent to give SB a run for his money. In addition Mine That Bird was a go until they changed plans in the last minute, it would have been a very good field had all the TC series race winners decided to run in it esp with the addition of QR.

I guess I missed where his odds were great. 7.80 to win? Huh.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I guess I missed where his odds were great. 7.80 to win? Huh.

5/2 odds were very good IMO for Summer Bird. Especially since he was the most likely winner & easily had the most class and the distance wasnt a question.

I was at the cigar bar playing pool and watching the ESPN coverage here and there.. but I almost felt like shooting over to OBS when I saw 5/2.

Of course if I would have bet him he probably would have lost.

[hockey2315]

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[CSC]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I guess I missed where his odds were great. 7.80 to win? Huh.

I was answering Antitrust's question of which field was tougher in competition and my answer to that was I thought QR was a very worthy opponent prior to the running of the Travers, I was consistent in this analysis. Anyone can say that may not be so now, esp after SB's relative easy race but prior to that race off QR's track record and his Florida Derby victory maybe one wouldn't be so sure. I wasn't referring to odds...

[tector]

You know, you don't win by just showing up.

Secretariat lost races in August and September of his 3YO season (including the Woodward, to 16-1 Prove Out). Screw your picayune analysis of which race is/was "tougher", blah blah blah. If RA wins this race, she should be HOY, conclusively, based upon a series of ambitious achievements throughout the course of the entire year--what part of Horse of the Year don't you guys understand?

There are a cluster of small-minded, self-absorbed, anal-retentive losers here who seemingly can't appreciate the remarkable even when it is dumped right under their noses. Jesus, go play fantasy football or something. Your fantasy horse racing is boring me shitless.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Does everyone still think the Travers was such a tougher race than this still? I know there are no Invasor's in here or even Lawyer Ron's... but its a nice field for what we have out there.

I'm not going to bet but if I was it wouldnt be on Rachel.. Macho Again would probably take my cash.. and burn it. lol

I hope she wins and if she runs her race she should, but this is no gimme.

Summer Bird would be the clear 2nd choice in here

[Gander]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Summer Bird would be the clear 2nd choice in here

And again be a distant second and fill out a very small exacta, although $12 for the Haskell was like stealing money

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Summer Bird would be the clear 2nd choice in here

Maybe at 1 1/4.. I dont know about 1 1/8th..

Summer Bird was built for classic distances.