NBA Summer League in LV

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

he was better than Hill with Arizona. I dont know, I'm just not sold on Hill. Sometimes he looks real good, sometimes he looks below average. He looked horrible against lousiville in the tourney. I always thought he should have been grabbing more rebounds at Arizona.. it always disappoints me when men his size dont grab tons and tons of boards. Basically everyone in the NBA disappoints me when it comes to this besides Howard right now. Shaq will never be an all time great center in my eyes because of this -(the man should have averaged 20 boards per night)

Chase was the best player @ Arizona and I expect him to be the best out of the two in the NBA, though Hill has an incredible size advantage to that.

Chase is a good NBA quality shooter (IMO.. disagree's with dala but thats nothing new) and great athlete... smart too. I think he will do well.

Hill can develop into a really good player, Budinger cant. While Hill is hardly there yet, he is very athletic for his size, has a lot of length and a good low post offensive game. He hasnt been playing basketball that long either. Physically he will do fine matching up. Budinger simply doesnt have the quickness to either create his own shot or defend his position in the NBA. He is a pretty good shooter, he will be a limited NBA player. Guys can get stronger, improve their shooting, work at their games, etc. but really cant get quicker.

[dalakhani]

Where do you guys get that he is a "pretty good shooter" or an "nba quality shooter" when he never shot better than 39% from the college three point line in three years??????

Please explain that one to me.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Where do you guys get that he is a "pretty good shooter" or an "nba quality shooter" when he never shot better than 39% from the college three point line in three years??????

Please explain that one to me.

He has a pretty good midrange shot. He is not a great long range shooter but does shoot the ball good enough to play in the NBA. Maybe not play a lot but there are a lot worse shooters in the NBA

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He has a pretty good midrange shot. He is not a great long range shooter but does shoot the ball good enough to play in the NBA. Maybe not play a lot but there are a lot worse shooters in the NBA

Sure there are worse shooters in the NBA. I didnt say he is the worst shooter i have seen. I said his shot is inconsistent...hence his sub 40% from the 20 ft college three point line which would fit into the "midrange game" in the NBA.

I think we are pretty much on the same page with Buddinger. . He is too laterally immobile to guard anyone on the perimeter and too small to guard anyone in the post. If you cant guard your position, you better be able to at least shoot. He shoots inconsistently and can't shoot for range. They don't pay midrange NBA shooters that cant get their own shot and can't play defense. There are a 100 guys every year that come out and fit those qualifications.

So what would his role be? You got it. He would be a faster, higher leaping adam morrison...that doesnt shoot it nearly as well.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Sure there are worse shooters in the NBA. I didnt say he is the worst shooter i have seen. I said his shot is inconsistent...hence his sub 40% from the 20 ft college three point line which would fit into the "midrange game" in the NBA.

I think we are pretty much on the same page with Buddinger. . He is too laterally immobile to guard anyone on the perimeter and too small to guard anyone in the post. If you cant guard your position, you better be able to at least shoot. He shoots inconsistently and can't shoot for range. They don't pay midrange NBA shooters that cant get their own shot and can't play defense. There are a 100 guys every year that come out and fit those qualifications.

So what would his role be? You got it. He would be a faster, higher leaping adam morrison...that doesnt shoot it nearly as well.

He is a 10th or 11th man who you pay a touch over minimum, plays 5 or 6 minutes a game, usually padded by blowout minutes, who will play hard and wont bitch at the DNP-CD's.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He is a 10th or 11th man who you pay a touch over minimum, plays 5 or 6 minutes a game, usually padded by blowout minutes, who will play hard and wont bitch at the DNP-CD's.

If he is lucky enough to find a coach/gm that likes him. Sure. he could do that. So could 100 other guys that are in the d league or overseas.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

If he is lucky enough to find a coach/gm that likes him. Sure. he could do that. So could 100 other guys that are in the d league or overseas.

Not exactly. Finding a good 10-12th is not easy as it seems because they are the guys that you arent paying to play, you are paying them not to play. Very few even semi-talented guys accept that role well. He is talented enough to improve enough to perhaps play limited regular minutes and probably smart enough to accept that role. He is a pretty good athlete and does shoot enough to make him an asset at a low price. Not a valuable asset but an asset. The D-League is full of malcontents and europlayers are too expensive.