7/11-12 (HOL): Gold Cup (G1); Heroine (G2); Juvy Ch. (G3); Landaluce

CSC · #1 07-11-2009, 09:34 AM

No doubt if Life Is Sweet wins today it may open up Zenyatta to try the males not too soon after. You have to think that was part of Sheriff's thinking today.

freddymo · #2 07-11-2009, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC

No doubt if Life Is Sweet wins today it may open up Zenyatta to try the males not too soon after. You have to think that was part of Sheriff's thinking today.

I think it was a way to keep them apart more then she being ready to win this race. She isn't going to beat this group. I suggest if she hits the board its a very fortunate day for them.

CSC · #3 07-11-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

I think it was a way to keep them apart more then she being ready to win this race. She isn't going to beat this group. I suggest if she hits the board its a very fortunate day for them.

I actually like her quite abit in this spot, though she got a perfect trip in her last against Zenyatta - beaten less than 2 lengths - that race was very good. If the race sets up for her I can see her being right there in the end. I really don't believe in the notion that fillies cannot compete with colts so it wouldn't surprise me at all if she wins today.

Pedigree Ann · #4 07-11-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC

I actually like her quite abit in this spot, .... I really don't believe in the notion that fillies cannot compete with colts so it wouldn't surprise me at all if she wins today.

Don't know where it comes from. Even in the US, running top mares against colts was rarely questioned during the 20th Century, if they fit. Easy Goer's mum ran third in the JC Gold Cup behind John Henry, didn't hurt her. Xtra Heat nearly won a BC Sprint.

Happens all the time everywhere else. Just Friday, 4yo filly won the G1 July Cup (5f) at Newmarket. The new trainer is talking about running Jealous Again in the 5 Nunthorpe S (G1) against her elders, male and female; she would get a huge weight break and it's been done several times before, the most recent being in 1994.

my miss storm cat · #5 07-11-2009, 03:22 PM

Maybe I've lost my mind but I think Dakota Phone looks good.

(Song of Navarone looks interesting too in a use-underneath kinda way).

Good luck everyone.

eajinabi · #6 07-11-2009, 03:32 PM

Tres Borrachos looks interesting. He scored a 104 beyer last out but it was in an ALW though it was a nice front running win. Its 6 weeks since that score and he could very well record a similar figure. Then again I could be wrong

Good luck to all!

freddymo · #7 07-11-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC

I actually like her quite abit in this spot, though she got a perfect trip in her last against Zenyatta - beaten less than 2 lengths - that race was very good. If the race sets up for her I can see her being right there in the end. I really don't believe in the notion that fillies cannot compete with colts so it wouldn't surprise me at all if she wins today.

I have no issue with mares or fillies racing against the boys. She just isn't good enough..

#8 07-11-2009, 06:53 PM

Boy the speed got loose with very moderate fractions
in the Gold Cup. Easy stuff.

eajinabi · #9 07-12-2009, 02:50 PM

Nice win by Rail Trip and nice run by Tres Borrachos but the rest of the field sucked ass

alysheba4 · #10 07-12-2009, 08:40 PM

yeah, but rail trip was huge.......

King Glorious · #11 07-11-2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC

No doubt if Life Is Sweet wins today it may open up Zenyatta to try the males not too soon after. You have to think that was part of Sheriff's thinking today.

You don't have to think that at all. Shirreffs didn't want to run her here. Theh owners didn't want to ship and they didn't want to face Zenyatta. Those were the biggest reasons behind her showing up here.