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Kasept 07-08-2009 04:06 PM

7/11-12 (HOL): Gold Cup (G1); Heroine (G2); Juvy Ch. (G3); Landaluce
 
8th (4:30) TVG / BETFAIR Hollywood Gold Cup H. (G1)

1 1/4 Miles (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $700,000

1 Autism Awareness Lopez D G 114 L
2 Big Booster Rosario J 115 L
3 Mast Track Flores D R 114 L
4 Bullsbay Rose J 118 L
5 Parading Desormeaux K J 119 L
6 Dakota Phone Bejarano R 116
7 Song of Navarone Espinoza V 117 L
8 Rail Trip Valdivia J Jr 116 L
9 Tres Borrachos Talamo J 114 L
10 Life Is Sweet Gomez G K 113 L
11 Global Hunter (ARG) Nakatani C S 115 L
12 Informed Baze T C 117 L
13 Magnum (ARG) Pedroza M A 115 L



10th (5:30) Royal Heroine Mile S. (G2)

1 Mile (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Zardana (BRZ) Smith M E 117 L
2 Patricia's Gem Espinoza V 117 L
3 Tuscan Evening (IRE) Bejarano R 117 L
4 Taste's Sis Pedroza M A 117 L
5 Meydan Princess (IRE) Flores D R 117 L
6 Gotta Have Her Baze T C 119 L
7 Lemon Chiffon Gomez G K 117 L
8 Visit (GB) Blanc B 119 L

eajinabi 07-08-2009 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v j stauffer
Made an inroad just this week. Going to ride Zardana for John Sherriffs in the Royal Heroine.

Guess not

10 pnt move up 07-08-2009 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eajinabi
Guess not

Vic,

Cant you fight that, if they gave you the commitment only to go back at the last second.

Dont let that Pegram guy push you around.

LARHAGE 07-08-2009 11:14 PM

Well how can Smith be at Calder and Hollywood on the same day? I think Rosario will be on her in the end, he's the only jock without a mount in the race.

hockey2315 07-08-2009 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LARHAGE
Well how can Smith be at Calder and Hollywood on the same day? I think Rosario will be on her in the end, he's the only jock without a mount in the race.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/105348.html

"Jockey Mike Smith, who was scheduled to ride all three Baffert runners on Saturday, will also be a late scratch. Baffert said Smith would be replaced by Michael Baze aboard Underground and Jamie Theriot on Wall Street Wonder."

Gander 07-09-2009 03:24 PM

What a double it would be for Shug if he could win the Gold Cup with Parading and on the other coast, the Man o War with Dancing Forever!

I wonder when the last time a trainer won Grade 1's in California and NY on the same day?

SniperSB23 07-09-2009 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gander
I wonder when the last time a trainer won Grade 1's in California and NY on the same day?

I doubt it has been that long since Pletcher or Frankel has done it.

Gander 07-09-2009 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SniperSB23
I doubt it has been that long since Pletcher or Frankel has done it.

I was thinking either Pletcher or O'Neill.

Anybody?

hockey2315 07-09-2009 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gander
I was thinking either Pletcher or O'Neill.

Anybody?

Definitely not Doug O'Neill.

hockey2315 07-09-2009 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gander
What a double it would be for Shug if he could win the Gold Cup with Parading and on the other coast, the Man o War with Dancing Forever!

I wonder when the last time a trainer won Grade 1's in California and NY on the same day?

Pletcher won the American Oaks and United Nations on the same day - almost.

Kasept 07-10-2009 05:14 AM

SUNDAY 3RD (2:00) Hollywood Juvenile Championship S. (G3)

6 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Necessary Evil Rosario J 114 L
2 Classical Slew Gomez G K 120 L
3 Grace Upon Grace Espinoza V 117 L
4 Zip Quik Talamo J 117
5 Coo Cachoo Baze T C 117



SUNDAY 5TH (3:00) Landaluce S.

6 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Ballistic Sue Baze T C 117 L
2 Ridemetothemoon Bejarano R 117 L
3 Repo Nakatani C S 117 L
4 Warren's Jitterbug Baze M C 115 L
5 Well Deserved Rosario J 120 L
6 Champagne d'Oro Gomez G K 115 L
7 Feeling Fancy Flores D R 117 L

CSC 07-10-2009 06:55 AM

Bullsbay and more so Life Is Sweet look most interesting in the H Cup.

cowgirlintexas 07-10-2009 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
SUNDAY 3RD (2:00) Hollywood Juvenile Championship S. (G3)

6 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Necessary Evil Rosario J 114 L
2 Classical Slew Gomez G K 120 L
3 Grace Upon Grace Espinoza V 117 L
4 Zip Quik Talamo J 117
5 Coo Cachoo Baze T C 117



SUNDAY 5TH (3:00) Landaluce S.

6 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Ballistic Sue Baze T C 117 L
2 Ridemetothemoon Bejarano R 117 L
3 Repo Nakatani C S 117 L
4 Warren's Jitterbug Baze M C 115 L
5 Well Deserved Rosario J 120 L
6 Champagne d'Oro Gomez G K 115 L
7 Feeling Fancy Flores D R 117 L


Wow.. Pretty sad compared to years past.

CSC 07-11-2009 09:34 AM

No doubt if Life Is Sweet wins today it may open up Zenyatta to try the males not too soon after. You have to think that was part of Sheriff's thinking today.

freddymo 07-11-2009 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSC
No doubt if Life Is Sweet wins today it may open up Zenyatta to try the males not too soon after. You have to think that was part of Sheriff's thinking today.

I think it was a way to keep them apart more then she being ready to win this race. She isn't going to beat this group. I suggest if she hits the board its a very fortunate day for them.

King Glorious 07-11-2009 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSC
No doubt if Life Is Sweet wins today it may open up Zenyatta to try the males not too soon after. You have to think that was part of Sheriff's thinking today.

You don't have to think that at all. Shirreffs didn't want to run her here. Theh owners didn't want to ship and they didn't want to face Zenyatta. Those were the biggest reasons behind her showing up here.

CSC 07-11-2009 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo
I think it was a way to keep them apart more then she being ready to win this race. She isn't going to beat this group. I suggest if she hits the board its a very fortunate day for them.

I actually like her quite abit in this spot, though she got a perfect trip in her last against Zenyatta - beaten less than 2 lengths - that race was very good. If the race sets up for her I can see her being right there in the end. I really don't believe in the notion that fillies cannot compete with colts so it wouldn't surprise me at all if she wins today.

Pedigree Ann 07-11-2009 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSC
I actually like her quite abit in this spot, .... I really don't believe in the notion that fillies cannot compete with colts so it wouldn't surprise me at all if she wins today.

Don't know where it comes from. Even in the US, running top mares against colts was rarely questioned during the 20th Century, if they fit. Easy Goer's mum ran third in the JC Gold Cup behind John Henry, didn't hurt her. Xtra Heat nearly won a BC Sprint.

Happens all the time everywhere else. Just Friday, 4yo filly won the G1 July Cup (5f) at Newmarket. The new trainer is talking about running Jealous Again in the 5 Nunthorpe S (G1) against her elders, male and female; she would get a huge weight break and it's been done several times before, the most recent being in 1994.

my miss storm cat 07-11-2009 03:22 PM

Maybe I've lost my mind but I think Dakota Phone looks good.

(Song of Navarone looks interesting too in a use-underneath kinda way).

Good luck everyone.

eajinabi 07-11-2009 03:32 PM

Tres Borrachos looks interesting. He scored a 104 beyer last out but it was in an ALW though it was a nice front running win. Its 6 weeks since that score and he could very well record a similar figure. Then again I could be wrong :zz:
Good luck to all!


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