6/6 (BEL): Belmont; Manhattan; Acorn; Just a Game; Et Al..

[Gander]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

The fact that there's no speed in the race? Wouldn't you have said the same thing about Da' Tara last year? Fool me once..

I see this race a bit differntly than most on here. I see Charitable Man being the clear speed and I am not talking about him just having "lope along" speed in a race without any. Hes got real speed and I expect him to be the clear early leader. Just hoping at least 1-2 others keep this pace honest.

As far as Miners Escape, I dont see him as a board factor. I think he'll get used up in trying to chase Charitable Man.

Da Tara was a shocker last year and I would have said before the race, no way he can win. But looking back, there was really 1 horse to beat (Big Brown) and he had quite the "off day!" For Miners Escape to win, wouldnt 3 horses have to have "off days?"

And going into last year's Belmont, didnt Big Brown appear as "lone speed?"
I played Da Tara on Preakness Day, damn I wish I played him back!

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Gander

I see this race a bit differntly than most on here. I see Charitable Man being the clear speed and I am not talking about him just having "lope along" speed in a race without any. Hes got real speed and I expect him to be the clear early leader. Just hoping at least 1-2 others keep this pace honest.

As far as Miners Escape, I dont see him as a board factor. I think he'll get used up in trying to chase Charitable Man.

Da Tara was a shocker last year and I would have said before the race, no way he can win. But looking back, there was really 1 horse to beat (Big Brown) and he had quite the "off day!" For Miners Escape to win, wouldnt 3 horses have to have "off days?"

And going into last year's Belmont, didnt Big Brown appear as "lone speed?"
I played Da Tara on Preakness Day, damn I wish I played him back!

timmy - it's raining now down here , guess who likes the slop!!

[Port Conway Lane]

I'd like to know why Miners Escape is considered a pace factor in this race.He was sitting behind Tone It Down in the Tesio in a slow 48 4/5 and Tone It Down could do no better than 9th place in the early going in the Preakness.

Brave Victory is just as capable of being on the lead in a slow pace as Miners Escape is and has shown in his sprints that he is the second fastest sprinter in the field behind Charitable Man.

That being said Miners Escape is certainly bred for the distance more so than his stablemate so I can't dismiss his chances based on his breeding. I just don't see him as a horse who will provide a meaningful pace.

[Gander]

Originally Posted by gales0678

timmy - it's raining now down here , guess who likes the slop!!

I dont think its going to be sloppy tomorrow.

[gales0678]

i don't think it will matter , you know when our man picks pletcher he becomes an auto toss