6/6 (BEL): Belmont; Manhattan; Acorn; Just a Game; Et Al.. - Page 4

gales0678 · #61 06-04-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Cause Frankel always scratches part of his entry and Champs Elysees was the much more logical horse to run here, especially with the possibility of soft turf.

so when i am wrong i am wrong , but when i get one right it is because i flipped a coin and guessed lucky ???

appearantly not everyone on this board knows bobby does this

Gander · #62 06-04-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Cause Frankel always scratches part of his entry and Champs Elysees was the much more logical horse to run here, especially with the possibility of soft turf.

And the Post Position kind of gave it away too

You think he was going to start a horse from post 14 in a race like this?

SniperSB23 · #63 06-04-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

so when i am wrong i am wrong , but when i get one right it is because i flipped a coin and guessed lucky ???

You think Frankel was going to scratch a horse that has won two G1s out of a tough G1 race for a horse that is yet to hit the board over here and could find far easier spots to try and get a win? You didn't need to flip a coin to figure out which horse was going to run.

gales0678 · #64 06-04-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander

And the Post Position kind of gave it away too

You think he was going to start a horse from post 14 in a race like this?

still gander the other board had the jump on this scratch becuase of our buddy at the Beverly Hills Hotel

SniperSB23 · #65 06-04-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

still gander the other board had the jump on this scratch becuase of our buddy at the Beverly Hills Hotel

Because your buddy at the nursing home has seen enough Frankel entries to use common sense as to which horse would be scratched and then announces the common sense scratch as if he has insider knowledge.

gales0678 · #66 06-04-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Because your buddy at the nursing home has seen enough Frankel entries to use common sense as to which horse would be scratched and then announces the common sense scratch as if he has insider knowledge.

scott you outa be nice , when you go to LA you can stay at the suite too , Paris Hilton , Tori Spelling .... all the blonds will be poolside for you

SniperSB23 · #67 06-04-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

scott you outa be nice , when you go to LA you can stay at the suite too , Paris Hilton , Tori Spelling .... all the blonds will be poolside for you

She's all yours.

robfla · #68 06-04-2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

Tori Spelling

Horse Face or

Horse Racing

Gander · #69 06-04-2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by robfla

Horse Face or

Horse Racing

LOL, you both beat me to it.
Gales, you have some very strange taste in women.

IrishofNDMan · #70 06-04-2009, 04:48 PM

can anyone post the pp's for the belmont stakes, thanks.

dpkovalesky · #71 06-04-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

can anyone post the pp's for the belmont stakes, thanks.

http://www.drf.com/formulator-web/fr...&raceNumber=11

ateamstupid · #72 06-04-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander

I dont think there is any chance Benny takes more money than Fabulous Strike.

Yes, the ML on Hull was strangely low. Isnt he the poly horse? I like Phil in this spot too. Thinking 5/2 on Phil.

Poly horse? Hull won the Derby Trial.

cakes44 · #73 06-04-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

Flying Private, the closest direct link to Mr Prospector or Deputy Minister. The offspring of these sires' have a nice success ratio in this race

Flying Private to win

You also have the "9th off a layoff" sheets play and the underrated "8 preps before the Belmont" statistical trend going for you. I like the bet.

ateamstupid · #74 06-04-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

Miner's Escape looks like a horse to me that has the running style and the pedigree that might allow him to steal the race, or at least hold on for a minor share. He definitely seems to be a different and improving horse after being stretched out.
But, do you guys think Da Tara's performance last year will turn Miner's Escape from a possible overlay into an underlay because a lot of people will love the Zito/LaPenta longshot angle?

You could do a lot worse, and I think he'll be at least 25/1. There's no speed in this race. I wanted to bet against Charitable Man, but who has any speed other than those two?

Gander · #75 06-04-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Poly horse? Hull won the Derby Trial.

Sorry wrong horse. I was thinking of someone else. Not too familiar with Hull.
Do you like his chances?

ateamstupid · #76 06-04-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander

Sorry wrong horse. I was thinking of someone else. Not too familiar with Hull.
Do you like his chances?

He's 3-for-3, was part of a wicked pace in the Derby Trial and still drew off to win by 4, though it's unclear whether he beat much. This is a way tougher test. He looks like the speed of the speed, but 3-1 seems a little short. I'd probably need 5-1 to get involved.

Gander · #77 06-04-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

He's 3-for-3, was part of a wicked pace in the Derby Trial and still drew off to win by 4, though it's unclear whether he beat much. This is a way tougher test. He looks like the speed of the speed, but 3-1 seems a little short. I'd probably need 5-1 to get involved.

I'm using Munnings and This Ones for Phil in the picks/double. If the price is right on Phil, I will make a small win bet but this isnt one of my bigger opinions of the day.

Dunbar · #78 06-04-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander

No, I think you will get your price on Miners Escape, for no other reason because the Big 3 will be taking down the majority of all win bets.

I think he'll be every bit of 30/1.

I honestly think he's an underlay at 50-1. His best BSF is 89 and next best is 74. He hasn't run farther than 9 furlongs, and he ran the final 1/8th in just under 13 secs last time out. What's to like?

--Dunbar

miraja2 · #79 06-04-2009, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunbar

I honestly think he's an underlay at 50-1. His best BSF is 89 and next best is 74. He hasn't run farther than 9 furlongs, and he ran the final 1/8th in just under 13 secs last time out. What's to like?

--Dunbar

Really? An underlay at 50-1?
You are obviously right about him not fitting in terms of speed figures with even his lifetime best being well short of the big three in this race (and even the stupid Lukas colt), but that is why he might be in the 20/1 - 25/1 range. He isn't one of the more likely winners, but if you aren't a big believer in most of the other colts in this race - and I'm not - I think you could do worse than having a decent Mineshaft/Broad Brush sitting in first or second after 9f at something like 20/1. The others are likely going to need to go by him at some point, and while Dunkirk and Mine that Bird are probably good enough to do just that, I wouldn't be shocked to see him hang on for at least a share. But then again, I liked that Pletcher horse as a longshot in the Preakness, and I think he just finished that race about 5 minutes ago....so what do I know?

I also kind of like Summer Bird. All in all I think it is a pretty interesting race to ponder.

ateamstupid · #80 06-04-2009, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunbar

I honestly think he's an underlay at 50-1. His best BSF is 89 and next best is 74. He hasn't run farther than 9 furlongs, and he ran the final 1/8th in just under 13 secs last time out. What's to like?

--Dunbar

The fact that there's no speed in the race? Wouldn't you have said the same thing about Da' Tara last year? Fool me once..