New York , New York

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by gales0678

how are things upstate , it must be tough up there

Upstate never bubbled like most of the rest of the country so to most it is the same as it was before with just a few more unemployed. The Bills will sell out every game in a recession while the Jags will be lucky to sell out a single home game.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Upstate never bubbled like most of the rest of the country so to most it is the same as it was before with just a few more unemployed. The Bills will sell out every game in a recession while the Jags will be lucky to sell out a single home game.

i heard about a guy who got onto the giants waiting list a few years ago - never ever would you hear from them until year 20 or 25.... well he gets a letter in the mail the other day , if he puts the $$$ up for the psl he can get a seat ...metro area is hurting right now

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by gales0678

i heard about a guy who got onto the giants waiting list a few years ago - never ever would you hear from them until year 20 or 25.... well he gets a letter in the mail the other day , if he puts the $$$ up for the psl he can get a seat ...metro area is hurting right now

yeah, city is hurting a bit, saw a thing someone did recently about best/worst housing markets in terms of house values compared to three years ago. Like half the top ten was upstate NY and half the bottom ten was in Florida. Bought my house in August '06 which was about the peak of the bubble, just got it appraised for a refinance at $22,000 more than I spent.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

yeah, city is hurting a bit, saw a thing someone did recently about best/worst housing markets in terms of house values compared to three years ago. Like half the top ten was upstate NY and half the bottom ten was in Florida. Bought my house in August '06 which was about the peak of the bubble, just got it appraised for a refinance at $22,000 more than I spent.

scott i wouldn't trust any apprasial there is an inherent conflict of interest with them and the RE brokers - august '06 was the height of the housing bubble in the country as a whole , as you said certain pockets of the country are down more than others , if any are up at all it's very slight, but i find it hard to believe any individual area of the country is up form summer '06
(a particular piece of propert could be up for a specific reason)

also tells us about your propert and school tax - are those the same as they were in '06?

also as a ny state resident you gotta think about where the state gets it's revenues - like it or not wall st sends enormous $$$ to albany every year , a lot of that is gone forever , a lot of those jobs are not coming back - my guess is that school and property taxes will continue to rise at 2x the rate of inflation or more as far as the eye can see

golisano left ny as i am sure other ny millionares are as well , you can't tax people into infinity forever when there are states like florida or nevada or texas that have no income taxes or lower income taxes than NY

the big time people leaving the state hurt guys like me and you that are in the middle - we eventually have to make up that burden as there is no one else to pick it up

as for the bills - well they are unique to buffalo and any pro team in florida will have trouble putting people in the seat - dolphins included - a more accuarte comparasion to the bills would be to the gator or sminoles - people in Northern Florida are bigger college football fans than NFL fans

Lori took me to the Hawaii game vs Florida last year - it was poring the whole game and the place was packed with 90k that day - , i doubt the jags would have sold out that day , but the gators sure did

[Antitrust32]

gales is right... there's no way there are any seats open for the gator games this year.

Especially after just winning the title.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by gales0678

scott i wouldn't trust any apprasial there is an inherent conflict of interest with them and the RE brokers - august '06 was the height of the housing bubble in the country as a whole , as you said certain pockets of the country are down more than others , if any are up at all it's very slight, but i find it hard to believe any individual area of the country is up form summer '06
(a particular piece of propert could be up for a specific reason)

also tells us about your propert and school tax - are those the same as they were in '06?

also as a ny state resident you gotta think about where the state gets it's revenues - like it or not wall st sends enormous $$$ to albany every year , a lot of that is gone forever , a lot of those jobs are not coming back - my guess is that school and property taxes will continue to rise at 2x the rate of inflation or more as far as the eye can see

golisano left ny as i am sure other ny millionares are as well , you can't tax people into infinity forever when there are states like florida or nevada or texas that have no income taxes or lower income taxes than NY

the big time people leaving the state hurt guys like me and you that are in the middle - we eventually have to make up that burden as there is no one else to pick it up

as for the bills - well they are unique to buffalo and any pro team in florida will have trouble putting people in the seat - dolphins included - a more accuarte comparasion to the bills would be to the gator or sminoles - people in Northern Florida are bigger college football fans than NFL fans

Lori took me to the Hawaii game vs Florida last year - it was poring the whole game and the place was packed with 90k that day - , i doubt the jags would have sold out that day , but the gators sure did

If the appraisal was lower they could have charged me PMI so not seeing why it would benefit them to appraise it high.

School and property taxes are pretty much on par with '06, slight increases maybe but nothing noticeable.

Was just looking at October - March seasonally adjusted unemployment rates for work and NY is doing far better than I expected. NY is just 6.9% which is well below the national rate of 7.5% over that time. When you consider that states like Rhode Island are 9.8% and California is 9.5% things could be a lot worse here.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

If the appraisal was lower they could have charged me PMI so not seeing why it would benefit them to appraise it high.

School and property taxes are pretty much on par with '06, slight increases maybe but nothing noticeable.

Was just looking at October - March seasonally adjusted unemployment rates for work and NY is doing far better than I expected. NY is just 6.9% which is well below the national rate of 7.5% over that time. When you consider that states like Rhode Island are 9.8% and California is 9.5% things could be a lot worse here.

this can't last forever the state has no money and they keep spending , this year albany will get less from wall st than less year