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Old 05-19-2009, 07:25 PM
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Why can't I be? Would you assert in the reverse that getting rid of special interrogation techniques is going to help our security? That niavete' is dangerous, especially coming from the White House. It is among the most absurd and ridiculous positions that I've ever witnessed from a president, and yes, that includes the numerous missteps of his predecessor.

Sorry, I'm an adult, so I don't believe that playing nice with the terrorist captives is going to make them stop attacking us. It won't. What Obama and the Congress are sending to the world through their actions is a perception that America is weak. That ultimately will result in another attack. When it does, since the Democrats are in total control (as they are fond of pointing out), all the blame, and all the blood, will be on their hands.

I hope it never happens, but that is the hypothetical situation as it now sits.

i am not naive, nor do i believe that taking a position opposite of george bush indicates a desire to have this country be attacked. that's an overly simplistic view of dems vs reps in my opinion. and, as dala said, the closing of gitmo is not seemingly on obamas list of things to do.
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Old 05-19-2009, 07:50 PM
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i am not naive, nor do i believe that taking a position opposite of george bush indicates a desire to have this country be attacked. that's an overly simplistic view of dems vs reps in my opinion. and, as dala said, the closing of gitmo is not seemingly on obamas list of things to do.
no one wants a terrorist attack in the united states more than poor sulking rejected conservatives. you can almost smell the relish for that lovely day when they roll out triumphant "i told you so's". if we had just been allowed that 184th waterboarding session, none of this would have happened...

as a nation, you may have moved on america but your old boyfriend still holds a grudge. he's praying you have a car wreck with the new guy. then you'll be sorry.

i hope obama fails and thousands of you die.
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:32 PM
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no one wants a terrorist attack in the united states more than poor sulking rejected conservatives. you can almost smell the relish for that lovely day when they roll out triumphant "i told you so's". if we had just been allowed that 184th waterboarding session, none of this would have happened...

as a nation, you may have moved on america but your old boyfriend still holds a grudge. he's praying you have a car wreck with the new guy. then you'll be sorry.

i hope obama fails and thousands of you die.
i get the feeling you're thinking of folks like rush when you say that. and you're probably right-they would say told you so if it was to happen.
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:22 PM
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i get the feeling you're thinking of folks like rush when you say that. and you're probably right-they would say told you so if it was to happen.
since the rest of the republicans have ceded the field to a foaming rabble, what's the real difference?

it's not like that party is going to nominate another john mccain in 2012.
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Old 05-20-2009, 12:35 AM
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I dont feel like it is so simple as " we hope there is another attack just to prove your man wrong " but more like we dont want to see the lackness of previous administrations when it comes to people harming Americans. Just think what might have happened if we had taken Bin Laden when he was offered to us , just think what might have not happened had we taken a more forcefull stand when our embassies and ships were attacked abroad by Muslim extremists. I expect and only want from our federal government to protect my freedom at any cost , whatever that entails , I dont want full disclosure on how they do it , I just want to be secure in knowing that it is done. I know that people dont agree with this and that is fine , hug a tree or a kitten whatever makes you feel secure , but what makes me feel secure is knowing that our country is willing to make people pay for wanting to kill me.
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no one wants a terrorist attack in the united states more than poor sulking rejected conservatives. you can almost smell the relish for that lovely day when they roll out triumphant "i told you so's". if we had just been allowed that 184th waterboarding session, none of this would have happened...

as a nation, you may have moved on america but your old boyfriend still holds a grudge. he's praying you have a car wreck with the new guy. then you'll be sorry.

i hope obama fails and thousands of you die.

Thats kind of f'd up. I'm a conservative and that is the absolute last think I hope happens. I hope that 9/11 is the worst attack that ever happens on OUR soil for the rest of my life. And I guess I have the potential to live another 75 years though I doubt I last that long.
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Thats kind of f'd up. I'm a conservative and that is the absolute last think I hope happens. I hope that 9/11 is the worst attack that ever happens on OUR soil for the rest of my life. And I guess I have the potential to live another 75 years though I doubt I last that long.
i doubt he meant all conservatives. but no doubt in my mind if there was an attack, there would absolutely be some i told you so's, with rush leading the charge.
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Thats kind of f'd up. I'm a conservative and that is the absolute last think I hope happens. I hope that 9/11 is the worst attack that ever happens on OUR soil for the rest of my life. And I guess I have the potential to live another 75 years though I doubt I last that long.
We all hope that it never happens. But we need to do better than hope. This administration's plans run counter to common sense in terms of the things that need to be done to safeguard the nation's security. Hope is not a plan -- Obama should learn that and fast.

And don't worry about the next 75 years. Unless you plan to go 75 years without any hospitalization or serious bouts, as the socialized medicine he is planning WILL lead to rationing, long waiting lists and a declining life expectancy. The government will see the older people as "cheaper when dead". That is where any cost savings will come from when the government controls all the spending, especially since government programs are never as efficient as private industry.

You likely do not have 75 years.
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We all hope that it never happens. But we need to do better than hope. This administration's plans run counter to common sense in terms of the things that need to be done to safeguard the nation's security. Hope is not a plan -- Obama should learn that and fast.

And don't worry about the next 75 years. Unless you plan to go 75 years without any hospitalization or serious bouts, as the socialized medicine he is planning WILL lead to rationing, long waiting lists and a declining life expectancy. The government will see the older people as "cheaper when dead". That is where any cost savings will come from when the government controls all the spending, especially since government programs are never as efficient as private industry.

You likely do not have 75 years.

I 100% agree with this. As I've said many times on here, I've lived in two countries that have socialized medicine (Ireland and New Zealand) and the healthcare was absolutely horrible there. Took forever to get appointments and frankly the doctors didnt seem all that good compared to the health care I've had in America.

Socialized medicine is by far the worst thing Obama could do to America... but I dont think hes going to go that far with it.

Health care DOES need to be looked at and costs must be affordable... we've allowed drug companies and malpractice lawsuits to rape our wallets over the years. Those are the aspects that need to be revised.

Socialized medicine is not the answer and will set this country and our great doctors and hospitals back so much.
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I 100% agree with this. As I've said many times on here, I've lived in two countries that have socialized medicine (Ireland and New Zealand) and the healthcare was absolutely horrible there. Took forever to get appointments and frankly the doctors didnt seem all that good compared to the health care I've had in America.

Socialized medicine is by far the worst thing Obama could do to America... but I dont think hes going to go that far with it.

Health care DOES need to be looked at and costs must be affordable... we've allowed drug companies and malpractice lawsuits to rape our wallets over the years. Those are the aspects that need to be revised.

Socialized medicine is not the answer and will set this country and our great doctors and hospitals back so much.
i like the coverage i have now, and hope they don't do anything stupid where i would end up paying the same amount that i pay now, for crappy service/care.
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Liberals like Hi I'm Dog are more concerned about Republican reaction to a terror attack than safeguarding against the attacks themselves.
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no one wants a terrorist attack in the united states more than poor sulking rejected conservatives. you can almost smell the relish for that lovely day when they roll out triumphant "i told you so's". if we had just been allowed that 184th waterboarding session, none of this would have happened...

as a nation, you may have moved on america but your old boyfriend still holds a grudge. he's praying you have a car wreck with the new guy. then you'll be sorry.

i hope obama fails and thousands of you die.
I think this was plagiarized with names changed from an old Jeremiah Wright sermon. Makes me very suspicious!
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