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Old 05-14-2009, 11:34 PM
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I've never seen a team with less heart and killer instinct than these Lakers. I knew that Houston would take it to them and be physical but I didn't think the Lakers would fold like they have. No way in hell they should be doing what they've done in these last two wins. None. Not without Ming. Adelman is coaching his ass off once again and Jackson is showing that once again, when he has to actually coach a team, he can't. Most overrated coach in history in my opinion. Breen just said something interesting. The Lakers all season long had never lost a game where the opponent led start to finish and now they've done it twice in three games. What a wildly inconsistent team they are. Battier played the best defense on Bryant that I've seen in a long time. He was in his face on every shot. Great win for Houston. I wasn't a Rockets fan but I am now. I love a team that plays with the heart they have shown. Win or lose, they have earned my respect.
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Old 05-14-2009, 11:37 PM
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Battier played the best defense on Bryant that I've seen in a long time. He was in his face on every shot.
But I thought Battier can't guard him. He can't guard him. He can't guard him. He can't guard him.
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Old 05-14-2009, 11:53 PM
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But I thought Battier can't guard him. He can't guard him. He can't guard him. He can't guard him.
not as well as delonte west.
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Old 05-15-2009, 12:44 AM
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But I thought Battier can't guard him. He can't guard him. He can't guard him. He can't guard him.
He can't, noone in the league really can. Kobe can have an off night, but when he is on his game no chance anyone in the league stops him.
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Old 05-15-2009, 02:04 AM
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He can't, noone in the league really can. Kobe can have an off night, but when he is on his game no chance anyone in the league stops him.
I know, I saw Kobe say it to him 25 billion times. It must be true.
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Old 05-15-2009, 08:39 AM
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I've never seen a team with less heart and killer instinct than these Lakers. I knew that Houston would take it to them and be physical but I didn't think the Lakers would fold like they have. No way in hell they should be doing what they've done in these last two wins. None. Not without Ming. Adelman is coaching his ass off once again and Jackson is showing that once again, when he has to actually coach a team, he can't. Most overrated coach in history in my opinion. Breen just said something interesting. The Lakers all season long had never lost a game where the opponent led start to finish and now they've done it twice in three games. What a wildly inconsistent team they are. Battier played the best defense on Bryant that I've seen in a long time. He was in his face on every shot. Great win for Houston. I wasn't a Rockets fan but I am now. I love a team that plays with the heart they have shown. Win or lose, they have earned my respect.
The beginning of the second half for the lakers was good and bad. It was good in the sense that you got a glimpse of how truly dominant they can be when they play with intensity. A 16 point lead disappeared in like 4 four minutes. But then when it was time to put them away, nothing. It was the horse racing equivalent of breaking poorly, making a big run on the turn and then not passing the leader in the stretch...while being heavily favored.

The Lakers defense last night was terrible from the inside out. Their rotation was pathetic.

Phil was outcoached last night in that he didnt have a Plan B. Plan A which appeared to be to pound Houston inside, didnt work because Bynum and Gasol just werent playing well enough to hit 5 ft shots over a bunch of shorter players and on the other end they were too slow to close out on Houston's 3 point shooters or to stop their drives. At that point, it might have been wise to try going small. Regardless if it take Gasol and bynum out, you still have the best player in the game and you have to like that matchup against this houston team.

People say what they want about Ron Ron, but it starts with him. What a shame the guy is such a nut. He is a wonderful player and teams he is on seem to overachieve more times than not.
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Old 05-15-2009, 08:57 AM
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Reality is that Lakers need someone else besided Kobe to hit the outside shot - if they do then it opens it for Gasol/Bynum and for Kobe (and where the hell was Odom last night - he played with lead feet).

The Lakers live and die by this and last night (like other nights) they died!

They will probably win in LA - but playing like this - they won't get by Denver.
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Old 05-15-2009, 09:09 AM
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I agree. Although I thought Odom played well for a guy with a back that is clearly bothering him. He was rebounding and made a few shots when they needed it.

True - I forgot about his back!

Fisher plays 21 minutes and scores 2 pt
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Old 05-15-2009, 09:23 AM
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I have a hard time understanding why Dala is so gaga over the Lakers. They have two really good players, one good player who is hurting, a fair young guy (Bynum- who simply isnt in shape) and a bunch of bums who dont really have any idea of what they are doing and/or are afraid of getting yelled at by Kobe. Why anyone would think they have a prayer against Cleveland is beyond me. They will beat Houston at home because they cant expect Scola and Brooks to play that well again and Darth Stern will have the refs make sure it happens (and as bad as the refs have been no one will be able to tell the difference)

As good as Denver is playing they will beat LA a few times and i never thought that they could.

The other series is awful. Orlando played poorly, shot FT's horrifically and still closed out Boston last night. The funny thing about Boston is that they are totally dead yet are still in this series. The Bulls series while exciting showed that they are pretty well finished because honestly the Bulls arent very good.
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Old 05-15-2009, 09:32 AM
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Because Detroit gave up this year and Atlanta has always sucked d.ick. Plus I hate chalk.
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Old 05-15-2009, 09:47 AM
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I really hope the Rockets win Game 7.
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Old 05-15-2009, 09:54 AM
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I really hope the Rockets win Game 7.
They might. Vulvachick and Farmar can't hit the side of a barn. I wish they would both retire and free up some money for the team...or get sex changes and play for the Sparks.
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:05 AM
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They might. Vulvachick and Farmar can't hit the side of a barn. I wish they would both retire and free up some money for the team...or get sex changes and play for the Sparks.
......word.
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:45 AM
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I have a hard time understanding why Dala is so gaga over the Lakers. They have two really good players, one good player who is hurting, a fair young guy (Bynum- who simply isnt in shape) and a bunch of bums who dont really have any idea of what they are doing and/or are afraid of getting yelled at by Kobe. Why anyone would think they have a prayer against Cleveland is beyond me. They will beat Houston at home because they cant expect Scola and Brooks to play that well again and Darth Stern will have the refs make sure it happens (and as bad as the refs have been no one will be able to tell the difference)

As good as Denver is playing they will beat LA a few times and i never thought that they could.

The other series is awful. Orlando played poorly, shot FT's horrifically and still closed out Boston last night. The funny thing about Boston is that they are totally dead yet are still in this series. The Bulls series while exciting showed that they are pretty well finished because honestly the Bulls arent very good.
Its interesting that delonte west is considered a "good nba player" and Trevor Ariza is a "bum". Or derek fisher is a "bum".

And, Kobe Bryant, is just a "really good nba player".

LOL. Objectivity is definitely a strong suit.
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:54 AM
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They might. Vulvachick and Farmar can't hit the side of a barn. I wish they would both retire and free up some money for the team...or get sex changes and play for the Sparks.
yea, what is up with that??? I have friends that would've had a better series than him. A far cry from last year's playoffs.

I'm eager to see how game 7 plays out. The table is set for Kobe to work some of his magic. He'll have to do it with Battier's hand in his face though. They'll have to pressure Brooks a hell of alot more than they've been if they want a crack at Denver.
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Old 05-15-2009, 12:46 PM
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I don't know what's going on with them. My guess is that team chemistry is all f.ucked up because you have a pacifist douchenozzle for a coach who rode the coattails of Jordan and Shaq and you have a narcissist star player with control issues who chews out his teammates. And when the teammates look for the coach to put the star player in check he plays the p.ussy buddhist route by not taking sides and lets them down in the process.

They need a bully coach who will take sides with Kobe and a bunch of followers who won't get moody when they don't get their way.
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I guess it would be better if Kobe stood on the sideline and made ridiculous faces at the other team and talked sh.it from the bench.....as opposed to actually in the game like the rest of the players in the NBA do.
He wouldn't do that, because then who would he throw sneaky elbows at?
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I don't know what's going on with them. My guess is that team chemistry is all f.ucked up because you have a pacifist douchenozzle for a coach who rode the coattails of Jordan and Shaq and you have a narcissist star player with control issues who chews out his teammates. And when the teammates look for the coach to put the star player in check he plays the p.ussy buddhist route by not taking sides and lets them down in the process.

They need a bully coach who will take sides with Kobe and a bunch of followers who won't get moody when they don't get their way.
I agree...the chemistry looks like its gone. The clips of Kobe getting in everyone's face were very telling as was Jackson's press conference where he basically said, "oh well, it's only a game."

It looks like Bynum HATES Kobe. About four different times this series they've showed the Lakers bench when Kobe makes a great play and half of them either intentionally look away or just clap once and that's it.

I think the Rockets will lose Game 7, but as a fan I am pleased with their season. I'm tired of saying imagine what'd happen if Yao stayed healthy but they've clearly become a much better team when he's hurt thanks to one of the best front office guys no one knows about.

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I agree...the chemistry looks like its gone. The clips of Kobe getting in everyone's face were very telling as was Jackson's press conference where he basically said, "oh well, it's only a game."

It looks like Bynum HATES Kobe. About four different times this series they've showed the Lakers bench when Kobe makes a great play and half of them either intentionally look away or just clap once and that's it.

I think the Rockets will lose Game 7, but as a fan I am pleased with their season. I'm tired of saying imagine what'd happen if Yao stayed healthy but they've clearly become a much better team when he's hurt thanks to one of the best front office guys no one knows about.

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McGrady and his lack of leadership and horrible defense
has been a bigger factor imo. McGrady does not fit on this
blue collar team.

The Lakers do not appear to be having fun.
Look at the other benchs on these playoff teams,
they are jumping up and down and yelling, waving
towels. The Lakers mostly sit there. Looks like
they think playing is a chore.
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:32 PM
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Its interesting that delonte west is considered a "good nba player" and Trevor Ariza is a "bum". Or derek fisher is a "bum".

And, Kobe Bryant, is just a "really good nba player".

LOL. Objectivity is definitely a strong suit.
You really think Ariza or Fischer are as good as West? Seriously? I happen to be a Knicks fan but if you think that either is close to West your objectivity may not be in question but your sanity certainly would.

Ariza is a limited player. Fischer is just old. I know his glowing stat line from this years playoffs (7 points and 2 assists per) may dazzle you and his defense is Loyola Marymountesque but those intangibles that he brings to the table along with that 7% 3 point shooting during the current series totally tilt the table in his favor.
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